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Old 04-09-2004, 05:58 AM   #1
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Default An election question about the economy!

Heres an election question about the economy for you!
Just how many 9/11's do you think that it would take to totally disrupt our economy?
1. Our economy was going south before GW Bush ever took office!
2.GW's tax cuts are helping our recovery!
3. 9/11 did have a big effect on our economy!
4. The war on terrorism, and taking out Saddam, though costly, have stabilized our world, and we ARE safer because of this.
So, again, "just how many 9/11's do we need?"
At this point in time, we cannot afford to have an "appeasing," dummycrap like Kerry in office! Our "economy," nor our safety, can afford him!
GW Bush, while not perfect, (who is?) is the right man for the times we live in!
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If another 9/11 were to happen again under GW:
First it would be devastating for him politicaly
Secondly we would come out of it with no problem just like the last time

If it were to happen under Kerry:
First thing is that GW would be blamed
Secondly nothing would happen to the guilty
Third it would happen again in about a year because nothing would be done except raising taxes.
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Old 04-11-2004, 12:25 AM   #3
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Yes, the economy seems to be getting better and the tax cuts would have been fine.........if it wasn't for GW's out-of-control spending. We are all going to pay for his economic policies in the long term though. []
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Old 04-11-2004, 03:28 AM   #4
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Just how many 9/11's do you think that it would take to totally disrupt our economy?
IMO the last one was seriously injurious to our economy. The airlines industry was badly crippled and the ripple effect was huge. However it has been temporary.

I totally agree that GW did the right thing by taking the war directly to their face and I'm not sure Billy Bob, Al Gore or Kerry would have done that.....

I (as well as many Americans) can dream up situation of a future 9-11 that could be even worse and it's not constructive to enumerate here at the risk of giving ideas to the public. The answer is JUST 1 if it's done right. It's why it's so critical that these terrorists are destroyed.

For those that think the upcoming election is all about the economy.......please tell me how you plan to address it without addressing the terrorists?
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Old 04-11-2004, 05:09 AM   #5
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For those that think the upcoming election is all about the economy.......please tell me how you plan to address it without addressing the terrorists?
My point exactly!
Without a president that is strong on national security, we will not have a stable economy
Those who would appease and butt lick our enemies and the UN, will get us into more trouble!
That will not happen with GW Bush in office!
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Old 04-11-2004, 08:06 AM   #6
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I agree Jagmagman. It is unbelievable how the left ignores the economic impact of 911 when assailing Bush on the economy. Ann Coulter wrote a great article on this last week, saying how they are condemning him for not somehow preempting the attack in a way THEY WON'T EVEN ALLOW US TO DO NOW, AFTER 9/11!

Having said that, Bush has caved to the leftist socialist spending, and that concerns me.
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Old 04-11-2004, 08:14 AM   #7
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Isn't true that a large part of the "tax cut" wasn't really a tax cut but an advance on the child credit? I was watching a show last night and they said that many of the checks mailed out last year were just that and it one of the things making more confusing this tax season. They were saying something like 9 milllion people were asking for extensions this year,and even the IRS doesn't understand everything that was implemented.
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That's right, CharlieP, but also the child tax credit was increased and the income tax percentage decreased, meaning REAL tax cuts were made. But yes, that check in the mail was an advance and not a cut in and of itself.
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We are all going to pay for his economic policies in the long term though.
So then if Kerry was elected this would be different? He has stated publicly many times he would eliminate the tax cuts. So then we pay more taxes AND have to pay the deficit down too? So with Kerry we get a double whammy?

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Congress(both houses)( have to vote on ANY spending that the President wants? And isn't it true that the President can't write blank checks for anything without prior approval of Congress? So instead of constantly blaming President Bush for everything shouldn't we be blaming the entire government republican and democrat?
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Isn't true that a large part of the "tax cut" wasn't really a tax cut but an advance on the child credit? I was watching a show last night and they said that many of the checks mailed out last year were just that and it one of the things making more confusing this tax season. They were saying something like 9 milllion people were asking for extensions this year,and even the IRS doesn't understand everything that was implemented.

No it is not true. In fact, the changes concerning families with children were a very tiny part of the tax reforms passed by the Bush admin.

I can recap it in its entirety if you'd like. It provided every American with significant reductions. People in lower income brackets benefit the most. That is a mathematical fact. Additionally many other situations were addressed such as college funding which is a major expense for most American families. The reform even created a new 10% bracket which reduces taxation by 33% for working teenagers and college studenst (or any other low wage worker). There's volumes more but I won't bore you with the details.

To say that the the reduction in taxation was long overdue is a grand understatement. A large part of what created the previous surplus was OVERtaxation, despite the fact that the economy grew so fast in the 90's. At the same time our economy ballooned in size during the 90's, government itself also grew at a pace that embarrassed even Congress into passing the reductions. Think about that for a moment.

Bush blew it. Yes, he needed to eat part of the surplus to fund the war on terror. No, he did not need to spend like a drunken lottery winner. Yes, we will pay for it for a long time, as Cougar pointed out.

As I write this the events in Iraq are spriraling out of control. On the news this very morning, military officials stated that they are planning for the contingency of having to retake Baghdad one block at a time. The radical factions in Iraq are uniting against American occupation with a gallery of on-the-ground support from a variety of other nations, all of which are known enemies of America. We are witnessing the turning of the worm. The people with whom we are forced to deal are maniacs as usual. The difference is that all of the maniacs have committed to working in concert.

It is similar to a police force that is not completely supported by a given neighborhood, trying to drive out an organization of multiple, ruthless, street gangs working in unison. No easy task. The maniacs in Iraq have begun taking hostages. Yesterday they threatened to kill AND MUTILATE an American citizen/hostage.

It is going to get ugly for our troops, our country's image as the proverbial hero/good guy, and especially for Bush and anyone that dares to succeed him. It has now transformed into a situation with no good answers. What will need to be done to stay the course will include far more wholesale killing and this time it won't be nearly as "surgical" in nature. If we negotiate at all, they will deliver more terrorism. If we do not, we will be forced to kill a lot of innocent people in Iraq and elsewhere.

I, for one, have stopped waving the flag for a moment, and opened my eyes to the facts as they are unfolding at this very moment. That is not to say that I no longer support the concept, but instead I see that we've marched our way into a pit of snakes.

As to the economy...it does not like war. It does not like uncertainty. It does not like American foreign policy to be questionable to the point of embarrassment. Most of all it does not like terrorism as a viable, working tactic that produces precisely the results desired around the globe.

If people are regularly murdered at the local convenience store, it will have a profound and long-lasting effect on the "economy" of that store. That the owner has the stones to shoot back at the thugs does not change that at all.
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