But I thought outsourcing was "good" ??

[fng]

Gosh, could it be that politicians and big BIZZZZZNESS are lying to us ??


http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/0...h/12prices.htm

Higher Prices? Thank China
China's insatiable hunger for raw goods is starting to sting U.S. consumers
By Marianne Lavelle

The same global economic forces that have consumers
paying higher prices at the gasoline pump may soon
have them shelling out more money for their beds, their
appliances, and even their food.
In a trend apparent at the start of the year that has
accelerated in recent weeks, prices have been soaring
for nearly every one of the world's major commodities--
the raw materials like metals, grains, and fuels that
are essential to making the familiar products of modern
life. Until now, consumers remained blissfully
unaware of the chaos in the commodities markets,
because manufacturers have absorbed the increased
cost of doing business rather than raise price tags
in auto showrooms and department stores.
But the strain is beginning to show, and a few
companies have indicated they will ask customers
to help share the burden.

[kevin1]

If they do I'll have to choose between supporting them or supporting myself . I don't have to take a vacation , so Big Petro can bite me . I don't have a construtive use for gold , so they can bite me too . I'm sure that I'll find many other things that I can do without if I put my mind to it . Perhaps we all could , if only to send a message . [:@]

"Supply is worthless without demand."

Stop demanding and the prices will go back down .

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[Sswpriz]

A prime example of China's pressure is what has happened to steel: The benchmark hot-rolled-sheet price has jumped 80 percent since last year to $500 a net ton, a 15-year high. "All the raw materials for steelmaking--scrap metal, iron ore, pig iron, coke and coal, lime and dolomite--are being sucked up by China," says Tom Stundza, executive editor of Purchasing magazine, which tracks steel values. "The shipping lanes are full of ships heading in one direction." Nancy Gravatt, spokeswoman for the American Iron and Steel Institute, says that China's steelmaking capacity has increased from 100 million tons annually in 2000 to 250 million tons today. "They're going through their own industrial revolution," she says.

I am in the business of selling shelving , pallet racking and many other items to industry that are made of steel !!! We are getting hit with steel surcharges on the products we sell on a daily basis. I cannot even quote a firm price to my customers on these items since the surcharges are calculated at the time of shipment and not at the time I place an order !!! This is driving us nuts !!!!

[Jorgy]

We are getting hit with steel surcharges on the products we sell on a daily basis

Some of my customers don't get this either. Some guys want me to "hold" my price for 60-90 days, I don't think so. Steel is going up every day and I'm not the one that is going to take it in the shorts on this.

One of the fab shops that I do work with got an offer 2 weeks ago to sell his scrap for 4 times the going rate, he got rid of every scrap laying around his yard, it's all going to china

[burniegoeasily]

Im letting it be known that the idea of the global market being played on an even playing field is S#%^&. How can you call it equal when our products are tarifed 20% (at the least) higher that the same products exported.

As for petro, I agree with kevin. All I can say is why?[:@]

[Cougar Mag]

Nobody, and I mean nobody has ever gave an explanation why they think "outsourcing" is good. The Heritage Foundation.....a conservative organization was on Foxnews a while back, and the stupid guy never did say how it was good, but in his mind it was!

Now, how in the sam hill can anything be good when outsourcing means the jobs to produce something are overseas? Makes no sense.......and its a republican falsehood thats going bite them in the election.

[Tazman]

Out sourcing is good! It is good for the bottom line of businessmen and it helps line the pockets of politicians who allow it!

[kevin1]

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily

As for petro, I agree with kevin. All I can say is why?[:@]

Burnie ,
If I don't drive to my vacation destination Big Petro can't ream my ass at the pump . If others decide not to drive to the airport to take a fuel sucking jet to Cancun Big Petro can't make money . Supply and demand work in both directions . If you don't like the price of gas then don't buy any more than you absolutely have to . This will mean some sacrifice on our parts , but it's the only recourse we have . If demand exceeds supply , which it nearly always does , Big Petro and their OPEC butt buddies make out like the bandits they are . If we all said "Screw this , I'm staying home this year!" they would have no choice but to lower the price .

We can't all avoid a commute to work or school , but we don't have to use the amount of fuel that we do . Take your vacation in your own backyard this year and you too can thumb your nose at the international oil price fixing conspiracy(That sounded uncomfortably close to Hip!) As an added bonus the residents of your home state will appreciate the fact that you're utilizing the resources that they make their living from for a change . Your state will also benefit by keeping your tax dollars where they can do the most good for you .

[badshotbob]

ORIGINAL: kevin1

We can't all avoid a commute to work or school , but we don't have to use the amount of fuel that we do .

I agree, Kev. To take that one step further, I also think it would be a great idea to boycott the guys that buy foreign oil - Exxon, Mobil, etc.... Just DO NOT buy gas from these guys.