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Old 04-05-2004, 06:58 PM   #1
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Penn & Teller absolutely lacerated PETA on HBO.

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Here it is....
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Taking the bull by the ... horns?
Published March 28, 2004


America has a reputation for cynicism that is undeserved: It's amazing how much nonsense we accept unquestioningly. The wildly inventive Penn & Teller prefer a more vulgar term for nonsense. They call it Bull----! They've made it the title of their Showtime series, which on Thursday launches its second season of debunking ... nonsense.

Some of the episodes are fairly frivolous, such as upcoming shows on people's unreasonable fears -- you'll never be freaked out by a public toilet again -- and the ridiculous lengths singles go to in pursuit of a mate.

But the first target of the new season is a serious one: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA). The touchy-feely name is only the start of the organization's ... nonsense, Penn & Teller argue. Of course, Penn does all the talking. Teller is the Harpo Marx of this act.

PETA's mission statement is that it doesn't want animals to be killed, hurt, exploited or embarrassed. These are laudable goals within reason, which PETA rarely is. If PETA had its way, Penn notes, everyone would have to become vegans; shoes would be made of something other than leather; rodeos and circuses would be eliminated, as would horse and dog racing. Fishing wouldn't be allowed, zoos would be closed and harvesting honey would end, because this is an exploitation of bees.

Any medical research involving animals, even if it meant cures for AIDS and cancer, would cease. PETA would not even approve of guide dogs for the blind, again an exploitation of animals in its warped thinking. Despite the first three letters of its name, there would be no pets, because this amounts to slavery, according to Ingrid Newkirk, PETA's founder and president.

The latter contention is one of the reasons for the program, Penn explains. Many pet owners are donors to PETA, unaware of its extremist agenda.

They are also oblivious to the fact that the money they think they are donating toward the welfare of animals goes to support arson and bombing of buildings and other terrorist acts, according to Penn. These allegations are documented through tax returns and admissions from PETA officials and a confessed felon whose activities have been underwritten by the group.

Penn displays PETA ads that show emaciated Holocaust victims and mass graves next to similar images of animals. PETA officials vehemently argue there is no difference.

Rocker Ted Nugent, an outspoken advocate of hunting and an avowed opponent of PETA, says his children's lives have been threatened by people who say they are affiliated with PETA.

The head of the Los Angeles animal shelter, which boasts of rescuing 63,000 animals a year, has also been targeted. Jerry Greenwalt says his house and car have been vandalized by people representing themselves as being from PETA; his wife had a heart attack after one of these incidents, he adds.

Penn derides PETA's aspiration to unconditionally liberate these animals. With freedom comes responsibilities, he says. The purpose of liberation would be defeated because there would have to be animal jails for creatures that kill other creatures, as they inevitably would, as well as lesser offenses, such as defecating in the street.

Rodney Coronado, who has received at least $42,500 in support from PETA, according to tax returns, is seen showing college students how to make a Molotov cocktail. Coronado has admitted to bombing a Michigan State research laboratory and pleaded guilty to six other acts of arson, Penn says.

PETA's conduct is so outrageous, it inspired Teller to break his silence during the midseason press tour.

"I was deeply shocked by the degree of violence that's linked to PETA. I knew that they cared more about anthropomorphizing rats than they did about the welfare of humanity, but I didn't know the degree to which they bombed buildings."

In all likelihood, neither do many Americans who write checks to PETA, thinking they are supporting a group like more mainstream and responsible animal welfare organizations such as the ASPCA and the Humane Society. .

This is why the program is not only entertaining but a public service. And that's no bull.
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:00 PM   #5
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We all watched it at my house and it was a real eye-opener. The fact that Penn and Teller were able to reveal the nearly $75000 provided to the convicted arsonist was just dumbfounding.

They interviewed a handful of PETA reps and the things that they said were equally stunning.
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:45 PM   #6
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Yes,... they are twisted little monkeys...
My favorite scene where I turned down a door to door solicitor was when I told a PETA rep that I didn't contribute to anyone who solicited door to door...especially those organizations that were extremists...like PETA, Greenpeace and the NRA.....
You should have seen the facial expression of the college girl when her beloved organization was lumped with the NRA...You'd have thought she swallowed Drano with a kerosene chaser.........I closed the door on her with her sputterng and fuming unintelligably.....I will hold that memory close to my heart forever.
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Phew!

When I saw the title of this thread, I was afraid Penn and Teller came out as PETA freaks. I love those guys, and I am relieved that they are anti-PETA. It's so hard to tell the way entertainers and Hollywood types really are as people. It's nice to know these guys are level headed.
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all in all i would say penn an teller SLAM DUNKED peta maybe now some govt officials will take a lonnnnng hard look at peta and what they truly stand for
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When I saw the title of this thread, I was afraid Penn and Teller came out as PETA freaks. I love those guys, and I am relieved that they are anti-PETA. It's so hard to tell the way entertainers and Hollywood types really are as people. It's nice to know these guys are level headed.
I've always admired their intelligence and showmanship. They do their humorous illusion shows, but they also cut through crap in a most effective way. In other words, even if you disagree with their politics, you can't help but recognize the truth they speak.
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:38 AM   #10
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Before this post I would have thought they were liberals since they work in the entertainment industry . My opinion is now changed .

Good for Penn and Teller !
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