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Old 03-16-2004, 05:45 PM   #1
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In my opinion Bush and the republicans would hurt themselves more if they signed the asault weapons ban extention. Am I wrong or does this guy make sense?


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Why Republicans need assault-weapons ban

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When I worked at the Pentagon, a colonel in the office next to me had a bumper sticker on his wall that read, "Life is hard. But it's a lot harder if you're stupid." The National Rifle Association and certain members of my party are about to make things much harder for President Bush and his re- election campaign.

Many people, myself included, think the coming election between Bush and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., is going to be very close, with the vote and electoral count difference razor thin. Accepting that to be reality, then I'm wondering why certain Republicans are choosing to hand the Kerry campaign a controversial issue on a "nickel-plated" platter. That issue being the ban on assault weapons.

Politics aside, for national security reasons, a number of Republicans, independents and even Democrats believe it's imperative to re-elect President Bush. As potential "single issue" voters, these Americans strongly believe that post-Sept. 11, Bush has and will continue to take the fight to the terrorists. So again, I ask some of my fellow Republicans, if you believe this to be true, why endanger his re-election by supporting these obscene weapons of death?

The issue at hand (and trigger finger) is that the ban Congress imposed in 1994 that made it illegal to manufacture, transfer or possess 19 specific types of semi-automatic weapons, along with ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, will expire in September. That is, two months before voters go to the polls to decide on a new president.

Tragically, many Republicans want the ban to expire. There is no secret as to why they, and a number of Democrats, are willing to let the ban die on the vine. Their fear of the National Rifle Association, its ability to lobby and back the opponent of anyone who takes a stand against them, has galvanized them into inaction.

One Republican unafraid of the NRA who has always demonstrated the courage of his convictions is Sen. John Warner of Virginia. He has just co- sponsored, with Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., an amendment to extend the ban on these weapons of mass death and misery for another 10 years.

Citing the support of the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the Major Cities of Police Association and 200 sheriffs and police chiefs, Warner said: "I was persuaded by the law enforcement community. I'm thoroughly convinced the statistics do show a substantial reduction in the use of these weapons in the perpetration of crimes." Upon hearing Warner's principled position, the head of a gun-rights group in Virginia with 2,000 members immediately threatened the senator with reprisal in the polls. Gutter politics at its worst.

Those in either party who defend these weapons, either with their outright support or by tacit omission, should be made to publicly defend their position. Make no mistake, these semi-automatic weapons are designed to slaughter human beings. They are the weapon of choice of drug cartels, gangs and even terrorists. For the good of our nation, they must be eradicated from our streets.

To fellow Republicans in favor of letting the ban expire, I would ask: "Do the voices of those brave enough to wear the badge no longer carry weight with the Party of 'Law and Order'? Does the voice of President Bush, the head of our party, who is in favor of the ban against these weapons, no longer mean anything to you? Is your fear of the NRA such that your conscience can be silenced?"

Life, the re-election of a president, and the future of our nation are indeed hard. Don't be stupid. Support the ban.

Douglas MacKinnon was press secretary to former Sen. Bob Dole. He is also a former White House and Pentagon official and author, whose most recent novel is "First Victim" (M. Evans and Co., 1997).
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Old 03-16-2004, 06:31 PM   #2
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Am I wrong or does this guy make sense?
No you are not wrong. Just another anti-gunner that tends to know what he is talking about. All he needs to do is talk to algore to find out how Americans feel about more gun control.
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If he signs to renew and/or expand the AWB, he wont get my vote. PERIOD
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Old 03-16-2004, 08:04 PM   #4
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Politics aside, for national security reasons, a number of Republicans, independents and even Democrats believe it's imperative to re-elect President Bush. As potential "single issue" voters, these Americans strongly believe that post-Sept. 11, Bush has and will continue to take the fight to the terrorists. So again, I ask some of my fellow Republicans, if you believe this to be true, why endanger his re-election by supporting these obscene weapons of death?
I don't see how the two ideas are connected. The terrorists of 9/11 used "high capacity assault" planes not rifles to kill thousands of Americans, maybe he doesn't know the difference.

Just another liberal who has a very large mouth and a very small brain.
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If this guy was an ally and press secretary of Bob Dole, I think we are pretty lucky to never have had Dole elected.
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I quess I will vote for Bush regardless of what he does with this bill. A vote for anyone other than Bush is a vote for Kerry. No Thanks. I hope he does not sigh it but he is damned either way.
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:00 AM   #7
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Those in either party who defend these weapons, either with their outright support or by tacit omission, should be made to publicly defend their position. Make no mistake, these semi-automatic weapons are designed to slaughter human beings. They are the weapon of choice of drug cartels, gangs and even terrorists. For the good of our nation, they must be eradicated from our streets

Actually Mr. McKiinon, its your side that that needs to defend their position with hard facts rather than the typical lies and inflated rhetoric.[:@]
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Those in either party who defend these weapons, either with their outright support or by tacit omission, should be made to publicly defend their position. Make no mistake, these semi-automatic weapons are designed to slaughter human beings. They are the weapon of choice of drug cartels, gangs and even terrorists. For the good of our nation, they must be eradicated from our streets

Actually Mr. McKiinon, its your side that that needs to defend their position with hard facts rather than the typical lies and inflated rhetoric.[:@]
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No, you're not wrong. This guy is out to lunch and lying.


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Politics aside, for national security reasons, a number of Republicans, independents and even Democrats believe it's imperative to re-elect President Bush. As potential "single issue" voters, these Americans strongly believe that post-Sept. 11, Bush has and will continue to take the fight to the terrorists. So again, I ask some of my fellow Republicans, if you believe this to be true, why endanger his re-election by supporting these obscene weapons of death?
According to his hypothesis, these Americans will vote for Bush anyway because of the single issue of national security. That is the definition of a single issue voter--One who votes based on a single issue.


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The issue at hand (and trigger finger)
So melodramatic.

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Tragically, many Republicans want the ban to expire. There is no secret as to why they, and a number of Democrats, are willing to let the ban die on the vine. Their fear of the National Rifle Association, its ability to lobby and back the opponent of anyone who takes a stand against them, has galvanized them into inaction.
It couldn't be because those politicians realize this law is a farce and doesn't do anything but punish law abiding citizens.


[quote][Citing the support of the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the Major Cities of Police Association and 200 sheriffs and police chiefs, Warner said: "I was persuaded by the law enforcement community. I'm thoroughly convinced the statistics do show a substantial reduction in the use of these weapons in the perpetration of crimes."/quote]
BS. Any stats you can find show the exact opposite. These weapons are so seldomly used in crimes as to make this law inconsequential.


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Make no mistake, these semi-automatic weapons are designed to slaughter human beings.
Make no mistake about it bonehead. 99.9%+ of Americans who own so-called assault weapons USE them for law abiding purposes, not for "slaughtering" human beings. More BS.


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They are the weapon of choice of drug cartels, gangs and even terrorists. For the good of our nation, they must be eradicated from our streets.
Actually, they're not. Just more BS.


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To fellow Republicans in favor of letting the ban expire, I would ask: "Do the voices of those brave enough to wear the badge no longer carry weight with the Party of 'Law and Order'? Does the voice of President Bush, the head of our party, who is in favor of the ban against these weapons, no longer mean anything to you? Is your fear of the NRA such that your conscience can be silenced?"
This from a person who evidently doesn't know the truth or admit it. What do you really know about a conscience?


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Life, the re-election of a president, and the future of our nation are indeed hard. Don't be stupid. Support the ban.
Stupid describes this moron quite well.


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Douglas MacKinnon was press secretary to former Sen. Bob Dole. He is also a former White House and Pentagon official and author, whose most recent novel is "First Victim" (M. Evans and Co., 1997).
And Bob Dole wonders why he lost. With idiots like this, he was doomed.


This author is obviously a RINO (Republican In Name Only). It is people like this who should not be allowed to make any decisions for other people. Just being wrong is bad enough. Add lying, deceit and pompous arrogance on top of it and you have a real moron.
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This guy is an anti, through and through! And as someone said, a RINO!
This is one of their slicker lies, one that usually trips up the casual gun owner!
It's the "we don't want ALL guns, we just want the BAD guns off the streets" lie!
They just fail to tell you that they consider ALL guns are bad!
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