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Old 02-26-2004, 07:21 AM   #1
 
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There was some imagery that I didn't get, but beyond that, I thought it was a great movie. Unfortunately, I kept up to date on all the political BS surrounding the film, and couldn't help actively looking for the "anti-sematisism" and as far as the gore - though very graphic, hollywood has put out worst for less. It wasn't graphic violence for the sake of having violence, but it sure drove home what Christ went through for us.

I'll address the "anti-sematisism" first. Yep, there were Jews... including Jesus, his disciples, even some priest who called what they were doing to Christ a travesty and demanding a stay as not everyone was there. In the end... There is NO doubt left in the movie goers mind, that Christ was all about love, regardless of the circumstances - and that it was God's will alone that he die - no one killed him, he layed down his life.

If anyone was vile, it was the Romans who took such great pleasure in torturing Jesus. If I thought anything negative about the Jewish priest, it was their cowardess in the whole thing.

Jim C did a great job as Christ - you really saw the love, devotion, and determination of Christ. I thought it really made it more real to me. The watered down crucifiction I had become acoustomed to was blown out of the water. When I say "Jesus died for my sins" I will no longer think of him on the cross, with a trickle of blood coming from his hands where the nail was driven through. The pain he went through, the taunting, and his reaction to the entire ordeal was portrayed very well in this movie... JMHO
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Old 02-26-2004, 09:17 AM   #2
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I'm going to see it tonight when I get done with class.

I have an exam in Modern History tonight, then I'm high-tailing it right to the theater to see this. I think my brain will be overloaded with information.

By this time tomorrow, I'll be talking about how Alger Hiss really killed Jesus and whether the Kennedy's were portrayed accurately.

Uggh.
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WANWTF,

I haven't seen the film, but I doubt that you saw all of the suffering that He actually suffered. They ripped His beard out by the handful, his face was not recognizable. After they completed the scouraging, His ribs on His back and probably in areas even His backbone would have been exposed where the skin and muscle was torn, shredded and ripped away. The crown they crushed down on His brow was of a type of vine that had 6"-8" thorns. They would of cruely dug into His brow and face. All of this may have been depicted, but I doubt it was to the extent that it really was that horrible day 2000 years ago when He suffered and died for you and for me.

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After they completed the scouraging, His ribs on His back and probably in areas even His backbone would have been exposed where the skin and muscle was torn, shredded and ripped away. The crown they crushed down on His brow was of a type of vine that had 6"-8" thorns. They would of cruely dug into His brow and face.
Lamb,

This was the most real depiction of the beating Jesus took that I've ever seen. Of course, nothing will ever really compare to what he went through for us. The worst part of it all, was not the physical pain he went through, but when God turned his face because Jesus had actually "become" sin.

The scourging in the movie is extremely graphic. It shows raw meat being ripped from Jesus's body.

The movie was good. I understood almost all of it, and really think that it almost fit into the Bible to a T. I do wish there would've been a bit more shown after the resurrection though.
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Once I can get tickets, im there. I love the Idea of showing the extream pain Christ went through for us. I think it is too sobering for some. The message scares them.
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I haven't seen the film, but I doubt that you saw all of the suffering that He actually suffered. They ripped His beard out by the handful, his face was not recognizable. After they completed the scouraging, His ribs on His back and probably in areas even His backbone would have been exposed where the skin and muscle was torn, shredded and ripped away. The crown they crushed down on His brow was of a type of vine that had 6"-8" thorns. They would of cruely dug into His brow and face. All of this may have been depicted, but I doubt it was to the extent that it really was that horrible day 2000 years ago when He suffered and died for you and for me.
No, I know it didn't depict all of the pain... I didn't want to go into details until others have seen it... but his rib bones were showing, and the way that wip ripped away his flesh was very graphic... also the thorn crown being crushed on his brow... I mentally imagined what he was going through each time that cross moved, and thudded into place. Remarkable movie to say the least. After this weekend, I hope someone starts a discussion thread on the movie, there is imagery I didn't understand and would like to see what others think, felt, etc.
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I saw a guy on Fox last night who summed it up very well. Christians who see the movie will see Jesus tortured and killed for two hours. Jews who see the movie will see Jews torturing and killing Jesus for two hours.
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If Jews would read Isaiah Chapter 53, they would realize that Christ was in fact the Messiah, and that yes, it was the Jews that demanded He be crucified, to wit "...give us Barabas." This chapter describes His crucifixion in such a way that even the Jews cannot deny it.

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The Jewish temple priest may have called for it, but it was God that made it happen. Jesus made it clear that he is laying down his life. The amazing thing is, he followed through and allow it to take place. His passion, his grace. Wow.
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Old 02-27-2004, 12:18 AM   #10
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Just got home...

Wow.

I'll write more later this weekend.

Just a question that was posed to me. Is it wrong, or disingenuous for a non-believer to seek salvation because of a movie? I say whatever brings you is wonderful.
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