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Old 02-21-2004, 09:45 PM   #1
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Default Canadian Gun laws

I know there was this post a few weeks or months back, but could someone give me some knowledge of the gun laws in Canada? I really don't know about them at all. thanks
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Old 02-23-2004, 06:47 PM   #2
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I'll give it a shot Stuck, but I'm no expert. I'm not sure if my experiances apply to all of Canada, or are Ontario specific.

Up here gun ownership is a privelage, not a right, a lisence is required and if they don't want you to have one they won't give it to you.

To obtain a lisence I was required to complete a firearms safety course, 16hrs if I remember correctly (different from the hunter safety course, required to hunt with a firearm in Ontario). The application required two references from professionals, and a number of promises about mental health and criminal activity, (one question asked about relationships and employment ending, apparently looking to see if applicants had reason to be depressed). My application had to be accepted in person at a police station, by the local firearms officer that was only there on Wednesdays so I had to skip some school, I had to provide a recent passport photo, $50 (non-refundable), and of course there was an extensive back-ground search. I got my FAC (Firearms Acquisition Certificate) in the mail close to a year later.

Fast forward 15yrs, there are no more FAC's, now they call it a PAL (posession and acquisition lisence). Firearms must be registered (all guns, not just hand guns). When they introduced the registry they allowed for people who were grandfathered guns and others to apply for possesion only lisences, but I was allowed to get the acquisition portion because I had already jumped through all the hoops years earlier.
The registry is a >1billion dollar srew-up recognized by all involved, even the Liberals that brought it in, but they won't cancel it because it would be an admission of fault, political suicide. All guns are to be accomanied by a registration card at all times, new guns (and used bought from dealers) cannot even leave the shop untill the registry office has been called and the transfer approved (more money, $40 I think).

I have never had a real problem with the safety course or back-ground checks because I'm just a hunter, we expect red tape and inconvenience from the government up here. The registry on the other hand, I could go on and on about the waste of $, how it deters people from joining our sport, how it does absolutely nothing for public safety, how cowardly the Liberals are for continuing to enforce it when they Know it does nothing but funnel money away from police and other productive measures. It was introduced to make urban housewives feel safe when they left the house, but instead it has robbed our police forces of vital resources that they need to make a difference, instead we have a billion dollar partial list of law abiding hunters, I promise you there is not one gang-banger on the list, gang members that buy black market hand guns don't register very often!
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Old 02-24-2004, 05:30 AM   #3
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Default RE: Canadian Gun laws

Tschaef's post illustrates why I'll never hunt in Canada ,
the regs for non-res must be even worse .
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Old 02-24-2004, 06:11 AM   #4
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There are lots of American gun owners who scoff when we say that this or worse could happen right here in America!
Don't fool yourselves! It can happen here and it could happen very quickly once the ball gets rolling.
Major tragedies like Colombine and the DC snipers, can get even people who are not strong anti gunners into a panic. The anti gun politicians seize on fear, and thats how things get started!
Once these rediculous laws get passed, it will be close to impossible to get them reversed! Just as Tschaef said, they will be unwilling to risk political suicide by admitting that gun laws don't work! Many of them won't even care that the gun laws don't work, they will just be happy with getting guns banned outright or with laws that make it to where you can't afford to own guns!
It can happen, and it's up to the American gun owner to see to it that it doesn't happen!
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