Trespassing or no? They do this in Finland - should they here?
This is more or less to get John Bear's attention, but though it would be interesting for all of us.
I have a neighbor from Finland. He was telling me about the how Fins use each other's land as free as if it were their own. The way I understand it, there are loose or no trespassing laws in Finland. You can roam, hunt, camp, etc on private land without permission as long as the activity isn't destructive. I told my Fin neighbor this was a bad thing and am glad it isn't that way here. He thought it was great as people have a lot of respect for other's property over there. John Bear - is this true? Do I have it right? What is your view on this?
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RE: Trespassing or no? They do this in Finland - should they here?
JEP. It is called every mans right. You can hike, collect berries and mushrooms, fish( some restrctions), set a few days camp (not too close to the hapitant) and these kind of things. You can't set a fire, or drive a motor vehicle or something like that with out land owner permission. I think it is this way because nobody owns much land in the same place and population have come this area slowly in long period of time.
I like it because I don't know anybody who owns that much land that I couldn't walk thru in a day. I have land of my own and never have any problems. I think it is the only this wide system in the world. In Sweden they have something similar but not as wide rights.
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RE: Trespassing or no? They do this in Finland - should they here?
This is wonderful! A little bit like in Alaska, where they never locked a cabin! If you're out in the wilderness and need to use someone's camp or cabin, all that is required is that you restock it with whatever you used as soon as you are able. This custom is intended to save lives, and does!
Unfortunately, there are too many s.o.b.'s in the lower 48 for anything like exists in Finland to work here. It's a shame. I don't mind if other hunters use my land, just as long as they close all the gates and don't cut any trees!
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RE: Trespassing or no? They do this in Finland - should they here?
That is how it is with myself and my neighbors. We always go on eachothers land, mainly for hunting, but riding ATV's and what not. No one ever has a problem with it.
The only time there is a conflict, is when someone from the city buys land next to us. They go on our land like it is theirs, but wont let us on theirs. I have kicked the adjoinging property owner off of my land many many times. A few years ago he was 200 yards from my house, standing in the middle of my field by a tree. So I got on my ATV and started driving around, on my OWN land, 500 yards from the property line, and this guy is so mad I though he was going to shoot me. (not literly, but close) And ALL of his stands are within 30 yards of the property line. He has more and better land to hunt that I do.
I know that many of you live in urban areas, and have to travel to hunt. I ask you to respect the locals. I don't come to your house and walk in your backyard. I know that most, probably all, of you do. I just had some bad experiences with a few different landowners.
RE: Trespassing or no? They do this in Finland - should they here?
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This is wonderful! A little bit like in Alaska, where they never locked a cabin! If you're out in the wilderness and need to use someone's camp or cabin, all that is required is that you restock it with whatever you used as soon as you are able. This custom is intended to save lives, and does!
Could you imagine if it were like that everywhere? How cool.
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That is how it is with myself and my neighbors. We always go on eachothers land, mainly for hunting, but riding ATV's and what not. No one ever has a problem with it.
Used to be like that where I grew up too. Grew up on 10 acres where everyone had 10-20 acres. As kids, our playground was a few square miles because no one cared about other people on their land, mainly because there was respect and no crazy law suits. Most of my folks' neighbors have sold and moved on. This has brought in rude city slickers. I shot a deer on my dad's property last year and it fell 5 yards on the neighbors' property. It was at night so the neighbor saw me from his house. I drug the deer back over to my dad's and gutted him. The neighbor came roaring back there and commanded my name and address and what I was doing on his land threatening to call the law. Ok, technically the deer was on private property and I should have asked permission, but I was used to the way it was growing up as a kid. The next day, the guy lined his fence row with no tresspassing signs. Using a guy's property to camp and fish and hunt is one thing, but to simply cross it or drag a deer 15 feet is another.
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RE: Trespassing or no? They do this in Finland - should they here?
This is the way it once was in many places here also. When I was a kid in Northern Wisconsin you didn't need permission to hunt or fish on anybodys property, no trespass signs were few and far between. This was true until sometime during the 70's when so many people from Milwaukee, Madison and Illinois started buying up small pieces of property, building a shack or moving a trailer onto it and posting it. Of course they expected those of us that lived there to allow them unrestricted access to the property that we had owned for a couple of generations but God help you if you set foot on what they now owned. Things changed.
Trespassing or no? They do this in Finland - should they here?
