Seperation of church and state...

[buckmine]

I thought there was a reason for this?

When you church going folks bring up guns and god you lose me.

[Jorgy]

You lost me on your question or statement

[buckmine]

I thought there was a reason our forefathers declared seperation of church and state.

So I see on many posts how people talk about god and guns? You know, conservative talk....

[Jorgy]

The seperation is for the government, not the people

[Aught Six]

It's because people take religion more seriously than anything else in this world. Naturally most people want laws that reflect their beliefs. But when a religious minority comes into the picture, they tend to have their rights trampled.

Our forefathers' goal was democracy, freedom, and liberty. Obviously that won't exist if people are made to obey laws that contradict their own religious beliefs. Yes, some of the early patriots were very religious, but they also realized that as long as no harm is done to one's fellow citizen, one must be free to choose his own destiny.

[CalHunter]

This is one of the 2 most misunderstood parts of the constitution (the 2nd amendment is the other). The pertinent part is that the state is prohibited from establishing a "state" or government religion. In other words, the state cannot favor one religion over another and make it some kind of government requirement, etc. like many of the pilgims experienced in England and other European countries. Our forefathers intention was to eliminate our government's ability to persecute a person for their religion, thus guaranteeing a person freedom of religion.

[stealthycat]

buckmine - Can you post and highlight in the constitution or Bill of Right the seperation of church and state thats confusing you ?

[etothepii]

The phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the Constitution.

[fng]

Seperation of Church and State does NOT exist.

The establishment clause is as follows: "Congress shall make no laws with regards to the establishment of a religion"..

In it's literal sense it has two very important meanings:

1) Congress cannot create a state religion (like the Church of England)

2) Congress CANNOT even entertain any legal proceedings that pertain to religion.

They have crapped on the 2nd and more esoteric meaning for decades - thanks to lefties, athiests and turd burglars

[DaveH]

The separation was intended originally to keep the government from establishing a religion on the people. The way it's been enforced has been shameful to say the least. It now equates to not allowing God--or any vague or remote reference to Him--in any public venue. The ACLU is all over making sure of this.