B) NHTSA report on speeding...notice the number of fatalities and the cost to Americans. I'll give you that DUI was a major influence, but I never denied that it was not. Almost 40% of all drivers aged 15-20 were speeding, when they died
3) And for everyone's enjoyment, let me put this report out there, read the entire summary or more importantly look at the FAQ & A on Imputation Analysis, Pg117-119. Please pay particular attention to #3 on the report.
The bottom line here is that speeding kills an estimated 17,000 people each year. Alcohol kills a similar number, and in many instances the two are linked. However, the total number of alcohol-related fatalities is greatly inflated due to the NHTSA system of imputation, whereas the numbers for speeding are actual facts (speed can be determined via multiple factors, alcohol can only be determined definitively by BAC).
So now I have to ask, if the plates for DUI offenders is a good thing, shouldn't we really go after the real problem on American roadways, reckless and habitual speeders???
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RE: What should we do with habitual speeders??
God no! Don't even compare. Had to leave the board for 6 months because I signed his name. I'm from the Northeast, hence my Husky affiliation..
I started talking pro-rights instead of pro-life and was all done for...
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I speed like hell though, you almost have to. when you have a speed limit of 25 MPH in 3/4 of the state, you have to speed in order to get where you want to.
Case in point. The freeways around milpukie were designed for 70 MPH, but they're now 55..... There are MORE accidents at a speed limit of 55 than there were at 65.
Why is that? Because slow morons are hindering good drivers.
Why don't we have a blood bath on the Autobahn in Deutschland? They're going 150 MPH plus.. or is it that Germans are just that much better....?
Let them walk until they learn that the speed limit is for everyone and that there is a reason for having it. You either obey the law or your a violator. You can't obeys the laws you agree with and flush the rest. A speeder killed a very good friend of mines wife and put him in a wheel chair for the rest of his life. This on the day he retired in good health with many good years ahead of them. Was it worth it? The gal only had six miles to go. Well it cost two lives. Hope she is happy.
So now I have to ask, if the plates for DUI offenders is a good thing, shouldn't we really go after the real problem on American roadways, reckless and habitual speeders???
So have you never speeded in a car? If you have done it once then you are just as guilty as those that do it every day.
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Why don't we have a blood bath on the Autobahn in Deutschland? They're going 150 MPH plus.. or is it that Germans are just that much better....?
Germans are actually required to go to school and actually learn how to drive the correct way before they are allowed to have a license. They are required to test when they renew their lecense too.They learn things like keeping their slow A$$ out of the left lane and moving back to the right lane after you pass someone. They don't use traffic lights either.
BTW it's not the autobahn. There isn't a road named the autobahn. It's their name for a highway.
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So now I have to ask, if the plates for DUI offenders is a good thing, shouldn't we really go after the real problem on American roadways, reckless and habitual speeders???
What color plates should we give to wet behind the ears college kids that just cannot accept the truth?
Habitual speeders are taken care of in my state. It is called a point system. You get too many points, you loose your lisence.
You cannot regulate stupidity, or just plain lack of ability very well.
Driving drunk, which this thread is REALLY about, needs to be stopped.
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RE: What should we do with habitual speeders??
Man,
I'm in my mid-30's with thoughts of a mid-life crisis and some jackoff is calling me wet behind the ears. Funny, actually... the fact that I hold a part-time job, and have been employed either full-time or part-time since I was 14, while earning my degrees. The fact that I'm a husband and a father, a taxpaying citizen and a supporting member of my community---but yeah, so wet behind the ears...jackoff
I guess the bottom line is those who were so opposed to my views on the DUI thread just can't really stomach the actual facts, that speeding kills as many if not more than alcohol does in the USA.
17,000+ die from speed, 17,000+ die from alcohol. Some are in both categories. However, speed is definitive and can be a direct number or calculated. It is not "imputed" on certain qualifying criteria as are more than 50% of "alcohol-related" fatalities".
It is just sad, and I'm still looking for a response to this question---I can't find one---why is it that within the past 20 years automobile fatalities have remained stable, +/- 5%, but yet alcohol-related fatalities are down 20%? Seems that if alcohol were the primary factor, that total fatalities would have dropped significantly, no? But yet, we keep raising the speed limits, therefore those that are slightly impaired are conditioned to drive even faster??
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What should we do with habitual speeders??
