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Old 01-20-2004, 11:40 AM   #1
 
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does it really matter which Democrat gets the Presidential nod, hasn't G.W. proved himself....
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AMEN, I'm definatly voting for W, He's done a incredible job IMHO!!!
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I had hoped Al Gore would run again so that all the trash talk about Bush stealing the last election would be put to rest. Out of the current field of Democrats, Lieberman is the only one I pay attention to. Bush shouldn't have any problem with this bunch of wannabees.
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An incredible job...

...of taking away American rights...
...of destroying our foreign relations with every nation...
...of bending backwards to courting big business...
...of being a puppet to the master, Mr. Cheney...
...of his wanton desire to destroy the artic and national forestlands...
...of invading two countries with circumstantial evidence and changing the conditional reasons at every conceivable whim...
...of changing the terrorist alert status everytime his popularity dips in the polls...
...of putting the USA into the largest debt in its national history...
...of bringing "morality" back to the house that Clinton spoiled so rottenly...

IF that's an incredible job, I'll wholeheartedly agree [:'(][>:]
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of his wanton desire to destroy the artic and national forestlands...
back that one up would you please?
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An incredible job...

...of taking away American rights...
...of destroying our foreign relations with every nation...
...of bending backwards to courting big business...
...of being a puppet to the master, Mr. Cheney...
...of his wanton desire to destroy the artic and national forestlands...
...of invading two countries with circumstantial evidence and changing the conditional reasons at every conceivable whim...
...of changing the terrorist alert status everytime his popularity dips in the polls...
...of putting the USA into the largest debt in its national history...
...of bringing "morality" back to the house that Clinton spoiled so rottenly...

IF that's an incredible job, I'll wholeheartedly agree
Uggh...it seems that all of you have been slacking lately. Thus, I was obliged to come.

What exactly do each of these mean? Why is it that every argument I hear/read regarding Bush's policy decisions is framed in one laconic statement after another?

I invite you, elaborate on your statements. Get it off your chest. Show me how Bush is "taking away American rights", "being a puppet to the master, Mr. Cheney" or "changing the terrorist alert status everytime his popularity dips in the polls."

Please, I beg of you, set me straight!
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...Patriot Act, McCain-Feingold, new immigration acts, etc...

...Thinning of the national forests in the Southwest, approving a preliminary bill for exploratory drilling in the depths of Alaska and Antartica...

...big business...do I need to explain when the man raised more in campaign funds in one month than the seven democrats raised all of last year combined...the money came from somebody with cash, look at the list...

...invasion of Afghanistan was for Bin Laden, and for Iraq was for...oh wait, the list is too long...

...next time he dips in the POP, watch what happens to the homeland terrorist alert rating...just like it went up just before NYear's while his ratings were dropping from the employment drop...

...largest debt...well maybe with inflation, Reagan's was still larger...

Need anything else...morality is based on personal views and appearances...sure he's a family guy who keeps his whacker in check, but where is his alliance...to the American people or to the rich American people who support/finance his presidency???

If we the people do not question our leaders, who will???
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Thinning of the national forests in the Southwest, approving a preliminary bill for exploratory drilling in the depths of Alaska and Antartica...
You mean so all that fuel won't be laying on the ground. Dead trees =fuel.

You ever seen any pictures of the ANWR. it's basically an artic dessert.

Clinton closed the many forests to all logging it's resulted in the huge fires over the last few years. If you don't do some selective logging, (which is actually good for the animals in the forest) fire is natures way of thinning the forests.
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...Patriot Act, McCain-Feingold, new immigration acts, etc...
I won't debate the McCain-Feingold act because I happen to agree with you on that one.

Show me where the Patriot Act "takes away American Rights". The fact is, that not one abuse of power has occurred under the act, not one.

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...Thinning of the national forests in the Southwest, approving a preliminary bill for exploratory drilling in the depths of Alaska and Antartica...
Is that all he did? How exactly does this "destroy" the arctic and national forests? His Healthy Forest initiative was based upon scientific research that shows that thinning the forests of undergrowth and dead wood will decrease the quantity and scope of future forest fires. It's also common sense.

Exploratory drilling in ANWR, which is what I'm assuming you're talking about, is all he has proposed. Every leftie I've ran across talks about our dependence on foreign oil, yet block every attempt for the US to find their own.

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...big business...do I need to explain when the man raised more in campaign funds in one month than the seven democrats raised all of last year combined...the money came from somebody with cash, look at the list...
The "list" which you talk about shows a striking fact. The Republicans raise more money from individual donors than the Democrats. The majority of Democrat donations come from large organizations that do the Republicans. What does that tell you?

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...invasion of Afghanistan was for Bin Laden, and for Iraq was for...oh wait, the list is too long...
<sigh> Why is this so difficult to understand? After 9-11, our outlook on Global Terrorism had to change. We could no longer accept the system in which we wait until something happens than react to it after the fact. We must adopt a pro-active stance on terrorism and go after those who have shown a willingness to use terrorism as a means to an ends. Saddam Hussein was a threat to his citizens, a threat to his neighbors, a threat to the US armed forces in the region, and a threat to the United States. We could not afford to let him act on any of those threats.

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...next time he dips in the POP, watch what happens to the homeland terrorist alert rating...just like it went up just before NYear's while his ratings were dropping from the employment drop...
Define False Correlation - "Assuming that because two things happened, the first one caused the second one. (Sequence is not causation.) For example, "Before women got the vote, there were no nuclear weapons." Or, "Every time my brother Bill accompanies me to Fenway Park, the Red Sox are sure to lose."
Essentially, these are arguments that the sun goes down because we've turned on the street lights." http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/s...nts.html#cause

I guess those flights cancelled out of France don't convince you that a threat was real...I'm convinced that we stopped something major.

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...largest debt...well maybe with inflation, Reagan's was still larger...
Actually the largest debt shouldn't be looked at in terms of a percentage of GDP. In that case, the largest debt would fall upon Reagan's Administration, however, it's interesting to compare when we had Democratic control of Congress, who, as anyone with any knowledge of civics will tell you, is the only entity who can spend money. Luckily, I have a Link for you.

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Need anything else...morality is based on personal views and appearances...sure he's a family guy who keeps his whacker in check, but where is his alliance...to the American people or to the rich American people who support/finance his presidency???

If we the people do not question our leaders, who will???
Nice statement, sure does give you a warm fuzzy feeling...but what does it mean?
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