The Civil War and Slavery

[vc1111]

I submit that the Civil War WAS fought over slavery and provide the following proof:

To wit:

The Charter for the Succession of Georgia

paragraph one:

For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery. They have endeavored to weaken our security, to disturb our domestic peace and tranquility, and persistently refused to comply with their express constitutional obligations to us in reference to that property, and by the use of their power in the Federal Government have striven to deprive us of an equal enjoyment of the common Territories of the Republic. This hostile policy of our confederates has been pursued with every circumstance of aggravation which could arouse the passions and excite the hatred of our people, and has placed the two sections of the Union for many years past in the condition of virtual civil war.

[Gobbling Buck]

vc1111......I truley believe you live in the "Land of Oz"

The Civil War did not start over the issue of slavery. There were many issues involved and lead to the Civil War. The issue of slavery (while I don't agree with slavery) was viewed as while we're at it, may as well include it. Did you know that Abe Lincoln's original intent was to free the slaves (as property) and then ship them back to Africa? While they were owned, he could not legally accomplish this task. Further factors that fueled the flames between the North and South were issues of industry and economic and the Southerners view of Northern control.

[Dave590]

You guys don't have a clue. The civil war was fought with only two goals in mind.

To make Dick Cheny and his budies at Haliburton rich. and to put more money in the pockets of all those Jew bankers.

[Dave590]

[Charlie P]

So why did they put alll of that stuff about slavery in the first paragraph of this document then? [&:]

[Gobbling Buck]

Dave actually nailed it...................

[FroMan]

The federal government was in no position to tell the states what to do...

The states seceded because they were sick and tired of the bullying from the feds and wanted to decide what to do on their own...slavery was an issue, but it wasn't the main reason on why the war was fought...

It turned more into a main issue once the war was well on the way, because the US needed more men to fight, and because most of the Northern states had been moving away from having slavery for the past years anyways...

All in all, slavery was already in decline and would have eventually died out...all that Lincoln did was speed up the process 50-100 years...

[FroMan]

Declarations of Causes of Seceding States

South Carolina



[Copied by Justin Sanders from J.A. May & J.R. Faunt, South Carolina Secedes (U. of S. Car. Pr, 1960), pp. 76-81.]
Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union

The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right. Since that time, these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue.

And now the State of South Carolina having resumed her separate and equal place among nations, deems it due to herself, to the remaining United States of America, and to the nations of the world, that she should declare the immediate causes which have led to this act.

In the year 1765, that portion of the British Empire embracing Great Britain, undertook to make laws for the government of that portion composed of the thirteen American Colonies. A struggle for the right of self-government ensued, which resulted, on the 4th of July, 1776, in a Declaration, by the Colonies, "that they are, and of right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES; and that, as free and independent States, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do."

[Big Country]

Well, since we go through this one every year, I will add my .02 again this year.[8D]

The southern states wanted to split from the northern states over states rights.


The right they just happened to be concerned with was.....SLAVERY!

To say otherwise with a straight face could land you a part in a major screenplay.


Someone mentioned about southern unhappyness about their inability to compete in business.

Some things never change.

I know, there are many competitive companys in the south today.

I know this because I have several buddies who have moved there to run them![>:]

[stealthycat]

The Civil War was fought over Oil and Weapons of Mass Destruction you fools