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Old 01-08-2004, 07:59 AM   #1
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Would you let your 9 year old son go onto a river in a boat with your 25 year old future son in law ? February, cold day, the 25 year old is not a stranger to the river and is trustworthy as far as you know. You've know the 25 year old most of your life to an extent, he's been dating your oldest daugher for 7 months and he's a good guy.

Yes or no from a parents standpoint ?
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I would make that decision based on the experience and knowledge that the 9 year old has regarding the river and boats.
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:05 AM   #3
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Yes, there's no reason not to.
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:08 AM   #4
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What is the purpose of the trip?

Safety equipment?
Water temp?
Does the 9 year old know how to swim?

Does the 25 year old have any physical or mental health problems?
Does he drink? Does he smoke dope or use other drugs? Is he mature?

What kind of boat? Inboard? Outboard? Canoe? Raft? Cabin Cruiser? Yacht?

For how long?

Day or night trip?

River/current conditions? Depth? In a bay or eddy?

Other navigational questions? Obstacles? Hazards?

Other marine vehicles in the river at the same time?

What is in the boat? Any firearms? Alcohol? Equipment?

What is in direct proximity to the river?

Is the river polluted?

In general, how dangerous is the river?
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:23 AM   #5
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What is the purpose of the trip? - fishing

Safety equipment? - yes
Water temp? - damn cold
Does the 9 year old know how to swim? - yes

Does the 25 year old have any physical or mental health problems?
Does he drink? Does he smoke dope or use other drugs? Is he mature? mature and no to the others

What kind of boat? Inboard? Outboard? Canoe? Raft? Cabin Cruiser? Yacht? 20' river boat, flat bottom, 9.9 hp

For how long? afternoon

Day or night trip? day, clear skies, not windy

River/current conditions? Depth? In a bay or eddy? 1'-10' deep river, fairly strong current in places .... just a normal river.

Other navigational questions? Obstacles? Hazards? normal river stuff

Other marine vehicles in the river at the same time? its a fished river yes, you never know how many boats or guys bank fishing at given times

What is in the boat? Any firearms? Alcohol? Equipment? fishing stuff, legal requirements on safety stuff

What is in direct proximity to the river? its a river going through countryside, rural areas

Is the river polluted? no

In general, how dangerous is the river? [/quote] compared to ??

Answer ?
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:23 AM   #6
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Personally I'm not letting my son go to the playground with someone I've only known for 7 months.
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:30 AM   #7
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When I was about 14, I went canoing with my cousin (about 20 years older than me, and his son, about 7 or 8 at the time. It was the fall in Michigan and the water was cold and high. Things were going great when we got to a downed tree spanning the river. It's the type that, when you duck, you sail right under. Except that, as I said, the water was high. The tip of the canoe just caught the tree, and then we were swimming in short order.

Were my cousins son and I "endangered?"

We had life vests on. We knew the area/ found a house quickly. Nothing bad happened. We got cold, we recovered. The situation was potentially dangerous, but the adult practiced reasonable safety.

Danger avoided is a valuable life experience.
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:32 AM   #8
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Nope, I'd have to be with him.The one relly touchy thing you mentioned is the cold water.It kills quick.
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Old 01-08-2004, 08:48 AM   #9
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fairly strong current in places
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Water temp? - damn cold
No, he can't fish somewhere else, some other time. He's only 9.
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Old 01-08-2004, 09:05 AM   #10
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As ya'll probably expect, the kid was my brother in law and the 25 year old was me. Dangerous situation ? Not really, I was raised on the river, know the shoals, the eddies, the currents, the flow ... I had fished the area hundreds of times never a problem.

Well long story short we both got knocked out of the boat and damn near drowned - literally. God smiled on us that day, I have little doubt of that.

Was the parents neglible, endangering their child by letting him go with me ? I don't think so, no, from my point of view as the guy that went that day. Not cocky or anything, I just know that river, know fishing, etc etc. Sometimes the unexpected happens, even when you're best prepared. Could have happend to the Croc Hunter, couls have happened to the 6 year old on the tractor, did happen to me only 1 day of the hundreds and hundreds of days I've fished.

My point ? Some say yeah, let the 9 year old go, no big deal, minimal risk. Other say a higher risk that they'd take. Two opinions, more if truth be known, but no clear cut right or wrong.
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