I'm so sick of RUNNING PAIN

[Zelazny]

http://www.usatoday.com/life/2003-12...l-arnold_x.htm

Read it an weep. Not a simgle time in this article does it mention this girl getting EXCECISE. It did say if she starts playing softball again (hello ? excercise !) that she'll dropo another 35-45 pounds. Geesh, look at the side effects she's already experienced !

Surgery to correct a weight issue for teens ... unreal. Eat right, excercise and most people won't have a weight problem. I will say theres an occassional few that those simple steps wont work for ... but those few are few.

[Sswpriz]

Zel, my step daughter had that surgery, but she was not a teen when she had it, she was 33 years old....tried every diet under the book and could not lose the weight. Finally her doctor said that to preserve her health, she needed the surgery !! My SD dropped about 170 pounds and looks great right now and is feeling a lot better. Some people just can't lose the weight on diets that others can due to medical problems.

[Zelazny]

Sswpriz - Did your step daughter get on a cardio and weights program, working out 60-90 minutes a day ? Did she really control her eating habits ?

Like I said, there are a few exceptions. but the human body is not meant to consume 15,000 sugar and fat caloris per day while burning only 1500.

[OregunHntr]

At least she realized she had a problem and did something about it.

The ones that really disgust me are the ones who weigh 4 or 5 hundred
pounds and can barely move without help, and dont want to do anything
about it. Those people should have there mouths stapled shut[]

[logs]

Im not a fan of lazy fat people but I know that is not always the case. It is extremely rare that it is a "gland" disorder or whatever but it does happen.
That being said, excercise and the "proper diet" is the key to staying in shape.

Going on a diet is about the stupidest thing I ever heard of in my life. We are all on some type of a diet, be it a healthy one or a poor one. What you eat is your diet plain and simple. There is no need to go on some special fad diet. Aperson does not put the weight on over night. They do it over time and with proper eating and excercise they will lose excess weight over time in a healthy manner.

I know two people who have had this surgry. They are married to each other. It's like the story, Days of Wine and Roses except it's about food. They eat and drink way to much and of all the wrong things. Yet, they can not for the life of them figure out why nothing works for them. Went I spoke up it was, "well look at you. It's easy for you. You don't understand." Dah, excuse me all to he77, I get up 6 days a week at 5AM and go to the gym do my cardio and weights. I eat a proper diet of foods in the proper proportions and when I don't I workout all the harder.

It is one thing to be a little over weight. That is a personal issue that the individual has to live with. But to be obese to the point that it has a major effect on ones health is a cost to all of us. It effects the health insurance cost of group plans, it's a problem in crowded places like airplanes, sports arenas, other location with tight seating and it places others at risk because of the individuals limitations in movement when preforming otherwise normal activities such as operating a vehicle.

The sad thing is that it is a major problem in the good old USA because we have it so good and we are never held responsible for our behavior. If a pill can't fix it the knife will or the government will take care of you on disability.

[burniegoeasily]

I agree., I cant stand lazy fat people who cry about being over weight
while choking down twinkles and watching the T.V.. I do know some people
cant help it, like people with hyperthyroid ect.. But I have come across
thousands of people who say they diet and exercise but cant lose the weight.
But low and behold, when you research their living habits you find out their
attempts are futile at best. I use to work as a Corp. industrial fitness
trainer while working on my masters. I heard the spill, "I work out everyday,
eat right, and cant lose the weight". And then I would do my assessment on
them, and find out the most exercise they get is opening a bag of chips.[:@]
Their diet attempts were not eating the whole box of oreos in one setting
but waiting to finish them off later on that day. In many cases the obis
person wanted a quick cure. They were gung ho for about a week and then
quit. They all wanted a simple cure, one that doesn"™t hurt, take any effort,
or make them uncomfortable. They wanted a pill to do it. This is the reason
I left that job. I caught my self getting upset to much. I made pretty good
money, but got real sick of being the only one who cared. Im sympathetic with someones pliet, but when it is only crying with no self help, I get a little peturbed.

Zelazny said

Like I said, there are a few exceptions. but the human body is not
meant to consume 15,000 sugar and fat caloris per day while burning only
1500.

Very true. As a nation, we consume hundreds more pounds of carbohydrates
than we need. That is not as a nation but per person, per year.


Now with that said, I cant speak for everyone. Like Sswpriz stated, his step
daughter needed out side help. I dont know his step daughter story,
physiology, habits, build, or metabolism. I have had to work with people
whose doctors sent them to use to work with along with hormone therapy or
the likes to save some one from hypertension and the likes due to obesity.
Clinical obesity is few and far between, but does happen, so it wouldn"™t be
fare to group every one who is heavy in with the lazy fat slob group.



I do feel society has unrealistic goals for fitness. The human body is not
ment to be a waif thin girl or a muscle bound monster, but I have read, and
noticed an alarming trend; Americans are getting fatter. I just read in
Jama where 3 out of ever 4 American adults are considered over weight and
1 out of every four are obis. Why is that? Id say a lot of it has to do with
technology. We dont have to do any physical activity all day if we choose not
to.



My wife is always telling me, "make me work out" I tell her, "I cant do that, that is something you have to make your self do." Staying in shape is a discipline. Like I tell her, "If staying in shape was easy, everone would be".

[Vapodog]

I've been through hell and high water to quit smokin.....but it's now over 20 years ago...then I went thru hell and high water to quit drinking.....but it's now been over three years.......and it sure wasn't much fun trying to lose the 62 pounds I've just lost.....and about ten more to go.......

The insinuation that obesity is a national problem is purely more liberal bullcrap, it's a personal problem and those that want to "belly" up to the problem and face it can do so......those that don't.....will find no sympathy here!!!!!!

[dep214]

i can't believe the bigotry here. they are still human beings and should be treated with respect.sure there are lazy people. there are lazt fat and skinny ones.when i retired i weighed about 259 but was not fat. i retired due to a back injury.i can not excercise due to barely being able to walk or move around. i eat one meal a day but have gained a great deal of weight. i weigh about 315 now.you are wrong here to degrade anyone as you are no better or worsem than they are.

[Zelazny]

dep214 - You overweight ?

Hey, a person doesn't need to eat themself into fatness, laziness and out of shapeness and ask me to lie and tell them they look great - aint happening. America needs some harsh reality. That article I read said NOTHING about the girl trying to excercise, only that she had tried Atkins and Jenny Craig etc. BS - there is only 1 way you'll lose weight and keep it off.

Ready for it ?

Burn more calories than you take in daily and keep working at it.

Thats it, no other way. The pics of that girl now ? She weighs less but overall is in no better shape unless she excecises. Its no secret that the dotors told her to play softball to lose an additional 35-40 pounds and no miracle why.

So what keeps people from doing this simple thing ?

IT HURTS !!!!!!!!

No pain no gain is the absolute truth. I'm 34 and have been playing basketball the past few weekend with some young kids that don't mind banging me around. I hurt on Sunday nights and Mondays .... if I let up on my excercise (and have lately) I pay for it, my body gets softer and my heavier and getting back into shape hurts more.

No secret, just do it.

[dep214]

if you had read my previous post you would have seen exactly what i weighed and why. i am unable to exercise due to a back injury. i also stated i can barely walk.fat or skinny we are still human being .i worked 2 jobs for 25 years until i hurt my back. i played softball for over 20 years until i hurt my back.i have also had to heart attacks and a light stroke while i was active and exercising.i was extremely active until my injury. i ran every day on my job. what was my job?i am a retired deputy sheriff.the demeaning nature you have shown does not put you in a better class or make you better.if everyone was the same the the world would be at a stand still.
i do not ask or demand your statements be retracted. i choose to ignore them because your lack of respect for other human beings shows people what you really are.