On the local talk radio they were bashing Dick Chenney for going on a "canned" hunt. They said he shot 70 pheasants. I thought it was merely a preserve but all the non-hunters are picturing it as shooting them in a barrel. I didn't know he went on this hunt to begin with. What's the deal?
I certainly do not know any of the details of the hunt. But I can say without any doubt that if Dick Chenneys' mother were living and he took her "to the mall", that 85% of the media in this country would try to show it in a "bad light"!
Knowing that alone, is frequently ALL I need to know!
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Here is a news article about it, the drudge report had a better one, but I can't pull it up off of achives for some reason.
Humane Group Slams Cheney For Westmoreland Hunt
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Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) is being criticized for shooting duck and pheasant Monday at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier, Westmoreland County, Team 4's Jim Parsons reported.
Mark Bolish, an employee of the exclusive private club, told Channel 4 Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards that were released for a group of hunters. More than 400 of the farm-raised birds were killed in all.
The Humane Society of the United States on Tuesday called it a "deplorable" form of hunting, because the pen-reared birds are not in their natural habitat. The HSUS also questioned the ethics of what it calls "canned hunts."
"This wasn't a hunting ground. It was an open-air abattoir, and the vice president should be ashamed to have patronized this operation and then slaughtered so many animals," said HSUS senior vice president Wayne Pacelle in a written statement.
Club employee Scott Wakefield described the hunt for Action News.
"We release pheasants off a hill, and they shoot them," Wakefield said. "They all stay in their blinds up ahead of us. The other guys like me, we have our dogs and we run them. We stand below (the hunters), and every bird they shoot, our dogs retrieve them."
Cheney's visit was personal, not public. There has been no comment from his press office in Washington, D.C.
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I'm kind of mixed on this one. I have been on a "canned" pheasant hunt before. But the pheasants were more in a field/cover and we worked it for a new dog. It was fun, but they aren't wild birds and you pretty much had to step on them to make them fly. Don't get me wrong, I still had fun, but it wasn't hunting to me, it was training the dog. The pheasants still tasted good, but I would take more pride in having sore legs after a day of chasing wild birds than shooting 73 that were kicked out to you.
From what I heard, they had a group of around 10 guys and they shot 417 of 500 birds released for them. This was before lunch time too. That is a hell of alot of shooting. After lunch they went duck hunting, I never did hear how many ducks they got.
To me it sounds really overboard, but they were pen raised and that is what they are for. I don't think you would have heard anyone bitch about Cheney buying 73 chikcens from the supermarket, but I would have prefered him to knock on my door and I would have gladly taken him out on a Colorado pheasant hunt.
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I would never go on a canned shoot and this is just one of the reasons.
This type of activity reflects on the Hunting community and it is in no way hunting. They go and shoot a bunch of stocked animals, some just minutes or hours from being released from pens and call it hunting. All this does is give the antis the ammo they need to acttach us hunters.
Now I don't care if they involve themselves in this activity but do not call it hunting. Call it Shooting.
Here in WI we call the Shooting preserves. They are not hunting preserves. It's like fishing in a stocked pond, doesn't take any skill, is great for kids and the women ( most women) but there isn't much of a challenge or sport to it.
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It's not my kind of hunt but "to each his own". I don't mind people hunting this way. I don't even care about people shooting exotics in high fences. I wouldn't do it but there's a lot of legal stuff I wouldn't do. This should have never made the news in the first place. The people have a problem with this and try to use it against him should get a life. Actually, a lot of the pheasant habitat is gone in the NE United States so pen raised pheasants are all we have. I shot one myself back in October.
I would never hunt a "canned ranch" personally , but it is legal . You really have to consider the source on this one , HSUS tried to stop the pheasant hunt in Ma. on the pretext that they "weren't native to the US" . Idiots always have an excuse ... [:@]
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How many Pheasants did the Humane Ass ociation release into the wild? How much money does the humane Ass ociation spend on restoring wildlife?
These people are all a bunch of whining jerkoffs, that wouldn't know the first thing about conservation of ANY species.
I would not personally take part in any canned hunts, but if someone wants to raise Pheasants and let people hunt them, then so be it. Alot of those birds aren't killed and some become breeders in the wild.
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Jorgy, not at all. Im totally correct. But thanks for pointing out how ignorant some business owners are to hunters and how they will cater to those that lack the desire or ability to really hunt. You can open anything you want and title your business however you want. The State does not license hunting preserves, they license shooting preserves and game farms. The operator can call it whatever they want it doesn't make it so.
The term Canned Hunts is a misnomer, they are in no way hunts and they are not for hunters.
I'd guess if you just write on the side of ones ford truck that it is a 500 hp hemi, that is really what is under the hood. Don't think so.
In Wisconsin they are shooting preserves by the states definition and thats the fact, jack.
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Chenney Bashed for Hunt
