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Old 12-14-2003, 10:25 AM   #1
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The fact is that Haliburton did not profit from the overcharge, it was a Kuwaiti go-between that is responsible. Also, President Bush said whomever collected the overcharge will be forced to pay it back.

Nevertheless, Dean came out saying that he is "saddened that the President values his relationship with Haliburton more than he values national interests." How disengenuous a statement can you make! If I were Bush, I would state that I resented that fraudulent remark and demand an apology.

Did anyone see the Dean remark, and doesn't it anger you?
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:52 AM   #2
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I heard it and his remark was totally uncalled for. It did not resemble the truth in any way And I lost any grain of respeck for this parasite creep.
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:54 AM   #3
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Was Haliburton granted large contractual favors without the prerequisite bidding process?
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Old 12-14-2003, 12:42 PM   #5
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Dean is a true poltician , the things that give polticans a bad name.

Not a public servent elected by the ppl to represent there intrests.
but aclown in a suit-telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear.

come to think of it he does remind me of billy some.
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Old 12-14-2003, 05:11 PM   #6
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1 eyefish. Great discription.
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:03 PM   #7
 
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I read something earlier (either newsmax or msn) that the Clinotn administration was up to their necks in some deal with Haliburton as well, WTF is that all about? It all boils down to the fact that money talks no matter who is in office. VP Cheney's link to Haliburton is nothing more than a handy club for the Dems to use at this time. Had the Republicans found the links during the Clinton administration they could well have used them then. Politicians and the media weasels that help them are all the lowest life forms on the planet, you can't trust any of them as far as you can throw a hot stove.
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:29 PM   #8
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Dave590 posted this quote in the Iraq and the 9 dwarves topic. It explains a lot about halliburton and the government's process for using a contractor for large scale jobs.



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HALLIBURTON .. THE REAL STORY

I am so completely sick and tired of hearing these Bush-hating, left-wing, Saddam-appeasing neo-socialists rant and rave about Halliburton that I could ..... well ... I could just spit. What morons. These are people who hate capitalism, hate the profit motive, and believe that every evil visited on the world is done so in the name of corporate greed. Losers all.

To listen to these irrational cretins you would think that this entire war in Iraq was being fought for one purpose, to enrich Halliburton. It would be not at all surprising if some of these anti-capitalist geeks believed that Bush arranged for those airplanes to fly into the World Trade Towers for that one purpose .. enriching Halliburton.

Try this experiment. The next time you hear some liberal parrot squawk about Halliburton just ask them one simple question. "Well, pal --- since you're such an expert on Halliburton, why don't you tell me just what it is that Halliburton does? Name one product or one service that Halliburton provides."

Don't hold your breath waiting for cogent answer.

Part of the perceived evil that is Halliburton is the fact that Dick Cheney once ran the company. As everyone knows, we should strive mightily to avoid ever placing anyone with the know-how and ability to run a multi-million dollar corporation in a position of responsibility in the political realm. Actually making a success of yourself in the private sector disqualifies you for public service, while not having any actual discernable private sector job skills is the supreme qualification for public service.

So ... let's get to the bottom of this. Did Bush or Cheney do something underhanded or illegal in handing some rather lucrative contracts to Halliburton for infrastructure and other work in Iraq?

We'll start with another question you can ask your bedwetting leftist friends. Ask them if they've ever heard of LOGCAP. They will tell you that they don't know what that is. You won't be at all surprised. LOGCAP is the Logistics Civil Augmentation Program created by the United States Army. It is a program that uses a competitive bidding process to award a contract to a corporation to be on call to provide whatever services the Army might need ... right then. Some brilliant thinkers in the Army came to the conclusion that it might not be such a swell idea to screw around with competitive bidding processes for logistics and other services during wartime. Imagine that.

Halliburton won the competitive bidding process for LOGCAP in 1992. They then lost that bidding process five years later in 1997. In spite of the fact that Halliburton no longer held the LOGCAP contract, Bill Clinton went ahead and awarded a no-bid contract to Halliburton to do some work in the Balkans supporting U.S. peacekeeping actions. Odd, isn't it. The same people who are screaming about Halliburton right now had absolutely nothing .. nada .. nunca .. not one thing to say about Halliburton when it was the Clinton Administration that was handing out contracts .. with no bidding, by the way. You might also be interested in knowing that Al Gore was quite a fan of Halliburton. Gore's reinventing government panel had some very complimentary things to say about Halliburton and the services it provides to the U.S. government. Ahhh ... but what does Al Gore know, right?

That brings us to 2001. It's time for bidding on the LOGCAP contract again. Halliburton is right in there, and wins the bid. This means that at the time of the Iraq War Halliburton had the bid for providing logistical and other services to the U.S. government. They were the go-to company. So, along comes the U.S. Army with a fat contract for Halliburton to put out oil-well fires in Iraq and all hell breaks loose. To the left this is all the proof you needed to show that this whole war was about oil and enriching Bush pals.

Recap: Clinton awards no-bid contract to Halliburton at a time when Halliburton did not hold the LOGCAP contract. Bush awards contract to Halliburton at a time when Halliburton DID hold the LOGCAP contract.

So ... one last question for your mindless leftist friends. Well .. make that two questions. Ask them if Clinton went into the Balkans to enrich Halliburton. They'll say no. Then ask them if Bush went to Iraq to enrich Halliburton. They'll say yes. At this point do all that you can to have your friend institutionalized .. for they are beyond all help.
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Old 12-15-2003, 08:16 AM   #9
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That was a great post. Thanks for the information, Dave. Add that to the fact that Halliburton didn't profit and Bush is demanding the Kuwaiti go-between to refund the overcharge, and it is obvious how whacko these assertions truly are...
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