Mo. concealed carry put on hold.

[strut]

Well the anti' s finally found themselves a liberal judge in St Louis that issued an injuntion that put our new concealed carry law on hold. Our good liberal Gov vetoed the CCW bill last spring and the legislature over-ruled his veto back in Sept. The law was suppose to take effect Oct 11, 30 days after his veto was over-rode. Now the Mo. Supreme court says that they will not hear the case, I thought we was finally going to get to carry a concealed weapon legally, but now I don' t know what the next move will be or how long this jerk' s injunction can hold off the law becoming law. Just more reasons to get rid of all the liberal jerk judges out there we have and replace them with someone that has a little common sense.


Its absolutely astonishing at the number of people that are signing up on the firearm classes that is required to take before you can apply for a permit. I have talked to some that I did' nt think would even be interested in CCW that was going to take the class and apply for their permit.

What we need is an open season on liberals and liberal judges.

[RedAllison]

Strut EVERY state has a carry permit... its called THE SECOND AMENDMENT!!!

Piss on some piece of paper that has a longer list of " cant carry heres" than " cans" . They are issued by some fat, lazy beauracrap sitting behind a desk that would' nt know self-defense from self-gratification...

Better tried by 12 than carried by 6
RA

[Briman]

Strut, the exact same crap happened here a year ago with the dove hunting season. Our state was given its first ever dove season last year, and a group of wienerheads found a liberal judge to block the season for last year. This year we have a season though. Maybe soon we will also have ccw here too.

[strut]

These people in KC and St Louis just about contols things here in Mo. and by the time you throw a libbie judge in that don' t have enough common sense to stay out of the fire its really bad. Seems to me if I lived in one of these crime ridden, thug run places I would sure want the ability to carry a weapon for protection.

You talk to some of these jerks and the first thing they say is, pass something like this and every nut out there will be packing a weapon, I just ask them what keeps them from doing it now, they sure don' t have to have a little peice of paper or license to say they can.

At work we have one guy that is against this CCW being passed, we also have one fellow that frequents the office that is a little on the radical side, My co-worker says what if he {the radical individual} wanted to come in here and shoot up things, I told him that he would' nt need a permit to do that and he better hope that I will be packing that day and stop him before he gets to the back of the office where his desk is, he has no answer for that.

[Coastie]

Strut, Is this Judge an elected Judge or one of those appointed for life? If he is of the former category, there is a chance to get rid of him coming up. If not, then maybe it' s time to start looking for an impeachable offense in his current work performance or in his past.

[strut]

Coastie I' m not sure which he is. I' ve never heard of him before this.

[PABuck_HNTR]

Strut, Here' s some more crap they' re trying to pull in Missouri:





SAF SAYS ANTI-GUN MISSOURI POLICE CHIEF
SHOULD SHELVE CONFISCATION PLAN
The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) today said Hazelwood, MO Police Chief Carl Wolf should set his personal anti-gun politics aside and shelve an order to have his officers seize firearms from motorists they encounter in routine traffic stops, when the state' s concealed carry law takes effect.

SAF obtained a copy of Chief Wolf' s memorandum to his officers, ordering them to check any firearm they find in any vehicle they stop, to determine whether it is lost or stolen, and finally, " Officers shall then seize the firearm, package as evidence, and forward the firearm"¦to the St. Louis County Firearms Lab, to determine if the firearm has been used in the commission of a crime."


" This is an outrage, and it violates Fourth and Fifth Amendment provisions regarding illegal search and seizure, and due process," stated SAF Founder Alan Gottlieb. " Chief Wolf' s vehement anti-gun attitudes and his long-standing opposition to concealed carry for Missouri residents are well known. By issuing this order, Wolf is clearly allowing his personal biases to influence how he runs his department.


" Seizure of a firearm for no other reason than blind suspicion to find out whether it' s been used in a crime amounts to a legal fishing expedition, and tramples all over such long-standing legal principles as ' innocent until proven guilty' and ' probable cause' ," Gottlieb added. " Chief Wolf is a vocal opponent of concealed carry in Missouri, and he even allowed himself to be quoted in a 1999 Handgun Control news release.


" By ordering his men to seize all firearms-and there is no indication in his memo that there should be any exceptions, despite his claims of officer discretion to the contrary-Chief Wolf is practicing a new, and contemptibly low form of harassment," Gottlieb observed. " Law-abiding Missouri gun owners should not be fearful of driving through Hazelwood, and having their property confiscated, pretty much on a whim, because Chief Wolf doesn' t like a new gun law. Has this guy ever heard of the Bill of Rights?


" Missouri gun rights activists," Gottlieb concluded, " are justifiably concerned that Chief Wolf' s order could result in a tragic incident that might later be used to justify his opposition to the citizens' right to bear arms. If Wolf wants to practice politics, he should first get out of law enforcement. This kind of demagoguery should not have the protection of a police chief' s badge."


The Second Amendment Foundation is the nation' s oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 600,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. SAF has previously funded successful firearms-related suits against the cities of Los Angeles; New Haven, CT; and San Francisco on behalf of American gun owners, a lawsuit against the cities suing gun makers & an amicus brief & fund for the Emerson case holding the Second Amendment as an individual right.

[fng]

Maybe soon we will also have ccw here too.

Nope. Doyle has vowed to veto it.

And he is now trying to get a bill introduced that would mandate a free breakfast for all the kiddies in the public schools.

[strut]

Holden also vowed to veto a CCW law, he did and he got it over-rode, What kind of support do you have from the legislature ?

[strut]

F4YG' s, I have' nt heard about that yet, But I can give him some good advice, don' t be trying it on to many Ozark hillbillies, he may be retreiving his own gun from where the sun don' t shine.