Military faxed me troop movements today ...

[Zelazny]

This is the best one yet. For 3 1/2 years now the military has had problems dialing a 1 before their long distance fax numbers. Misdialing results in the LEC using the first 7 digits NPA NXX and completing the call. Example - the fax # is 555-444-3333 and they forget to use the 1 first. The LEC will dial 555-4443 and if its a valid number connect the call.

My office NXX matches a long distance NPA that the local military base tries to fax to. This morning, they tried dialing (without using the 1) to that number. Instead, it came to me. What did I get ? Documents with troup numbers, troop movements etc etc. A co-worker is ex-military and he called them, and then had me witness the shredding.

Unbelievable. We' ve had personnel files faxed to us, some classified stuff but never troop movements @!

[Zelazny]

Got two more pages tonight ... we' re going to call the base tommorrow and try and schedule an appointment with someone high enough to get something done about this ...

Like teaching people how to dial a 1 before the area code and phone number ...

[vc1111]

Have your ducks in a row when you are contacted. They will take the matter very seriously and may even have a few questions for you.

[Dave590]

One of those questions might be...Why are you posting this subject on the internet.

I have received faxes inadvertantly also. They have always had a header that says something to the effect; If you received this fax by error,,,Destroy immediatly and contact XXX-XXX-XXXX number.

While I have never received troop movements, or anyting so sensitive, I don' t think I would post it here of all places.

I must add...I doubt that anything above the level of " confidential" ...Would be communicated over a non secure fax machine. " Confidential" in military speak is equivalent to a loud shout in civilian lingo. So I doubt that you had any information other than where the troops were playing games in Fort A.P.Hill.

[RedAllison]

Zel they did' nt ever fax you any of Clinton' s " top-secret" files did they?

NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the typicaly govt worker, even in the military!
RA

[vc1111]

NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the typicaly govt worker, even in the military!

You are out of line.

[Zelazny]

Dave590 - Good point, however I have not posted any details of the faxes. These faxes are movements I believe, and like I said, the guy i work with is ex military, I am sure he knows.

RedAllison - I got all excited about the movie " Kill Bill" thinking it was a CLinton flick.

VC - RA has a small point ... these people for 3 years now have demonstrated over and over that they cannot dial a long distance telephone # !!

[vc1111]

You have no way of knowing who is responsible for the glitch that created the error. It could have been a phone company switching error for all you know.

I' ve been in the military. It was one of the most efficient environments I' ve ever experienced. The everyday logistics are mind-boggling and they have proven that they can get the job done with VERY few errors, especially when one considers the sheer mass of the operations and required coordination.

Even the civilian sector where half as efficient as the military, the our world would be a better place.

You want to bash the guy behind the counter at the local IRS office, be my guest. You want to bash our sons and daughters that surrender their youth and innocence to put their lives on the line to keep us free, I' ll have a few unkind words for you every time.

No RA does NOT have a point. He' s out of line and for this American he can stuff it. I do not want to hear it.

[1eyedfish]

You want to bash the guy behind the counter at the local IRS office, be my guest. You want to bash our sons and daughters that surrender their youth and innocence to put their lives on the line to keep us free, I' ll have a few unkind words for you every time.

Best thing i heard all day,thks Vc.

My son & family have been vistiting( for a week) flying in from frankfourt,Germany& now living Back in the USA! , leaving tommorrow for minn& then to Tex, sheperd Afb.( my sons movements, as a temp civilian?lol)
just a lill vacaion., before going back to work i guess.

Ya i dont think id discuss things about military faxs& troop movents etc to much myself but i am paranoid[]& who know whos lisining, the walls have ears& loss lips sinks ships* & all men in dark suits & funny haircuts arent nessarlly mormons at yer door.

[Zelazny]

You have no way of knowing who is responsible for the glitch that created the error. It could have been a phone company switching error for all you know.

Yes, I do know because I ask and I work in telephony.

Lets say the person lives in a 543 area code. The destination phone number is 869-444-3920 and because he' s on a base (that of course has its own PBX or equivalent) he has to dial out to the LEC be it by 9 or 8 etc.

So the person dials out with an 8-869-444-3920 to what he/she knows is a long distance number (because of the differnt NPA or area codes) execpt they do not dial a 1 before the number. You ALWAYS have to dial 1 before a long distance number, the LEC has to have that to deliver onto long distance trunking (landlines). So instead of dialing 869-444-3920 , the LEC/switch assumes a 7 digit local number and tries connecting to 869-4443. If that happens to be a valid NXX-XXXX then VOILA! the call completes.

Its a very simple system that in 3 1/2 years the people at my local military base has proved over and over to not understand. No, its not a LEC issue VC, its the person dialing the number issue.

BTW, if a piece of paper shows UIC, UNIT DESIGNATION, HS, MOB PAX Station and arrival information, coordinates etc etc would that bne considered important info ?? I think it probably is and the military guy I work with does too.