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Old 10-07-2003, 12:06 AM   #1
 
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Default FBI Sent Money to Hamas During Clinton Years


READ THIS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE CLINTON ADMINASTRATION FUNDED THE HAMAS TERRORISM AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE THEY TRIED TO DO!!
Tuesday, October 07, 2003

WASHINGTON "” In an undercover operation run in the shadow of Mideast peace talks, the FBI secretly sent money to suspected Hamas (search) figures to see if the militant Palestinian group would divert it from charitable purposes to terrorist attacks, according to interviews and court documents.
The counterterrorism operation in 1998 and 1999 was run out of the FBI' s Phoenix office in cooperation with Israeli intelligence and was approved by Attorney General Janet Reno (search), FBI officials told The Associated Press.

[Fox News confirmed the report Tuesday morning.]

The money, usually just a couple of thousand dollars, was sent to suspected terror supporters during the operation as the FBI tried to track the flow of cash through terror organizations, the FBI said in a rare acknowledgment of an undercover sting.
" This was done in conjunction with permission from the attorney general for an ongoing operation, and Israeli authorities were aware of it," the bureau said.

The FBI said the money was given through one of its operative' s charities to see if it would be diverted for terrorism and the amounts were kept small so it couldn' t be used to fund a major attack. Court testimony indicates in one case a Hamas figure used the sting money to help orphans.

One of the FBI' s key operatives, who had a falling out with the bureau, provided an account of the operation at a friend' s closed immigration court proceeding. AP obtained and reviewed the court documents.

Arizona businessman Harry Ellen testified he permitted the FBI to bug his home, car and office, allowed his Muslim foundation' s activities in the Gaza Strip to be monitored by agents, arranged a peace meeting between major Palestinian activists and gained personal access to Yasser Arafat during more than four years of cooperation with the FBI.

Ellen' s FBI handler in the late 1990s was Kenneth Williams, an agent who later became famous for writing a pre-Sept. 11 memo to FBI headquarters warning there were Arab pilots training at U.S. flight schools. The warning went unheeded.

Ellen, a Muslim convert, testified he was taking a trip to the Gaza Strip to bring doctors to the region in summer 1998 when Williams asked him to provide money to a Hamas figure.

Williams wanted " the transfer of American funds to some of the terrorist groups for violent purposes," Ellen testified to the immigration court in a closed June 2001 session.

At the same time, President Clinton and his negotiators were trying to reinvigorate stalled Mideast peace talks, an effort that culminated in the Wye Accords in October 1998.

Clinton' s national security adviser, Sandy Berger, said in an interview that the White House wasn' t informed of the FBI activities. " We were not aware of any such operation," Berger said.

Clinton' s anti-terror czar, Richard Clarke, said he too was unaware of the operation. " I never heard of it, but it' s creative," he said.

Ellen testified the operation ended abruptly in early 1999 when he and Williams had a series of disagreements over the operation, disputes that began when Ellen angered the FBI by having an affair with a Chinese woman suspected of espionage.

FBI officials said they tried to get Ellen to end the relationship and his work was terminated for failing to follow rules.

Melvin McDonald, the former U.S. attorney in Phoenix who has championed Ellen' s cause, said the FBI' s abrupt end to the investigation squandered an important intelligence opportunity.

" Harry had been a tremendous resource to the bureau," McDonald said. " We did not have that many people like him with connections like that to the Middle East."

Former Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Dennis DeConcini, D-Ariz., another Ellen supporter, said Ellen' s work could have greatly assisted the FBI.

" I know some of the wonderful cases and sheer positives the FBI has done. But when it comes to spying and espionage they really screwed up, and I think Harry is one of those cases," DeConcini said.

The Justice Department inspector general is investigating some allegations that came to light in Ellen' s case, including that FBI agents in sensitive probes moonlighted at private companies that were using FBI assets or investigative subjects to assist their personal interests.

Ellen, stepson of an Air Force intelligence officer, had worked for U.S. intelligence since the 1970s as an " asset," a private citizen paid to provide information or conduct specific tasks. His work started in Latin America and also involved China and the Middle East.

Ellen, whose step-grandfather was Jewish, converted to Islam in the 1980s and began helping poor Palestinians.

In 1994, he began assisting the FBI Phoenix office, which had become a hotbed of cases involving terrorism and intelligence because of a large, active Muslim population, the proximity to the southern U.S. border and a large concentration of aerospace companies.

Ellen testified that by 1996 his humanitarian work, monitored by the FBI, had won him unprecedented access to Muslim militants from groups fighting for Palestinian independence, including Hamas.

In a rare meeting Ellen organized, he testified, the major groups created an informal alliance to ensure safe passage to any foreigner providing humanitarian assistance. Ellen was named a spokesman and met several times with Arafat.

Ellen also created a foundation named al-Sadaqa to further his work by bringing sewing machines, eyeglasses and other assistance to Palestinians.

Impressed by the extraordinary access, Williams insisted the new foundation be funded in part by the FBI, Ellen testified.

In an interview, he said he agreed to help the FBI " not as a snitch but as a good American."

" I agreed to cooperate with the FBI in the facilitation of the peace process that would lead to an independent Palestinian state, stopping the half-century of violent and oppressive occupation," Ellen said.

" During that period of time I never did anything nor would I cooperate in any way to harm the Palestinian or Israeli people."

He testified that Williams provided him between $3,000 and $5,000 in the summer of 1998 and instructed him to give it to a Hamas figure named Ismail Abu Shanab, who was killed earlier this year by Israeli forces in retaliation for a Hamas terrorist strike.

" He (Williams) said they (the dollars) would be for terrorist activities," Ellen testified. Abu Shanab distributed the money to Palestinian orphanages and health care facilities, he said.

Ellen testified that Williams told him he hoped the transfer would lead to more money exchanges through terror groups but Ellen refused to earmark money for terrorism. He testified he later learned another FBI operative had offered Hamas and Palestinian figures larger amounts for terrorist attacks.

The court testimony shows Ellen allowed his home, office and car in Arizona to be bugged so the FBI could listen, without a warrant, to visiting Palestinians or Americans if they discussed illegal activity.

The FBI said it commonly uses such recordings. " Consensual monitoring does not require a warrant. In cases where the FBI conducts consensual monitoring, the one party is aware he is being recorded," it said.
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well i think this was stupid to do and now the terrorists have money thanks to the goverment!
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Old 10-07-2003, 05:06 PM   #3
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well i think this was stupid to do and now the terrorists have money thanks to the goverment!
I hate to break the news to you, but alot of the terrorist money/guns and things that go bang come right from the great US of A government. I don' t mind anything that knocks Clinton, but every president in the last 20 years has been a part of stuff like this. Normally it' s just us sending some troops or CIA pricks over there to train and equip them, but it' s all the same at the end of the day.
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Old 10-07-2003, 06:50 PM   #4
 
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This news doesnt surprise me one bit. The standard Damocrap answer to EVERYTHING in life is, " Give them more money" . NOTHING surprises me about what Klintoon did or allowed. His entire " foreign policy" was a complete and utterly dismal JOKE and is the sole reason we are in the mess we are currently in. Hell he dodged the draft and went to Oxford to smoke doobies and protest the Vietnam War with other hippies. What makes anyone believe he would' nt aid and abed the enemies once he was given The White House?

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The money, usually just a couple of thousand dollars, was sent to suspected terror supporters during the operation as the FBI tried to track the flow of cash through terror organizations, the FBI said in a rare acknowledgment of an undercover sting.
Did you guys even read the article?
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Thats very interesting. I often wondered exactly " how" we knew for sure that various charitatable organizations got their money into the hands of terrorists.

I imagine that the technology involved in such a venture was a little beyond what your home computer could do.

I' m not suprised that this particular revalation was thrown out at this particular time. Isreal is on the verge of kicking some major butt, and I suspect that it' s coming real close to the time for us, the United States to decide who we are gonna back in this race.

I mentioned in a post about a year ago that after Trashcanistan, we were gonna go into Iraq, and after that particular threat to the region was removed, we were gonna let Isreal take care of what it needed to take care of...Most likely with some marginal support from us.

Once Isreal wipes out the PLO, subsidiary fractions and Syria, most of what we know as an " unstable" mid-east will no longer be.

The days of appeasment are over.

Our job in this excercise is to eliminate the " source" of those funds originating from our side of the ocean.

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