Ok GA , Would you call someone pro-gun thats votes 25%, 40%, 50%, 60%,70% or whatever percent for pro-gun issues , you tell me what kind of percentage does one need to be classified as pro-gun according to you. Set you up a scale and post it here on how they would be graded percentage wise then we will go from there, for instance if one voted for pro-gun issues 10% of the time he would be rated with an F, one that voted for pro-gun issues 40% of the time a C-, but I want you to use your scale and your judgement, I just used these figures for an example.
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Yeah Strut I don' t expect you to get a response on this one!
If GA is constantly attacking both the NRA and the GOA as BS organizations and crediting some of the Liberals like Howard Dean' s ideas on gun laws I think we already know his position on guns.
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If they don' t vote 100% ,I dont want them representing me.You cant be half pro abortion,that dont make any sense either.Either you kill the baby or not.You cant half kill someone.Your either for guns or not.I dont care if it is a BB gun or a bazooka
for me it depends on what legilation they' re trying to pass , background checks i don' t like but , i don' t have anything against them because it makes things a tad bit safer and makes the shooting public look better in the undecided nations people' s eyes but , there is a line when it just gets to be too much like when it comes to more restrictive bills , like bans , registration , that' s when i draw the line . don' t get me wrong i' m not for gun control and you have to be careful how much little bits you give up before they carve away a large piece but , our image to the public is very important to the survival of the second amendment. it' s one of those double edge swords that can cut you rivals to shreads but can still carve you up as well
i' de have to say about 85% TO 95% of the time pro-gun
i' de also like to add as well , that zel' s point is a good one , and they have to also think about what the people in thier state are thinking , as they want to stay in that position as long as they can
cardeer - I challenge you to find even 1 politician that votes pro-gun 100% of the time. Theres too many give me' s and IOU' s in politics to do that.
I tried to find one myself after zel brought this up. It' s interesting but none of the major pro-2nd amendment groups have a lifetime 2nd amendment voting record readily available. I would have thought something like that would be especially useful. Gunowners of America was the only group to have several years (1997-current) voting history available online.
[link]http://www.gunowners.org/cgv.htm[/link]
I found many congressmen (I didn' t check Senators yet) who have an 85-95% pro-gun voting record like Whelen said. Some of the votes that were against gunowners were requiring manufacturers to supply a trigger lock with a gun purchased. If I recall, even the NRA was semi-supportive of that bill. Anyway, zel, I did manage to find one (yes, 1) single congressman who voted 100% pro-gun for 1997-current. It was Ron Paul (Republican) from Texas. Guess all you Texas boys can start braggin' now.
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Fair question Strut, but not one that I think I can answer. If a bunch of ridiculas legislation on gun control comes up, obviouslyly, and hopefully the percentage will be higher or lower in favor of gun rights.
All I can really tell you Strut, is that I will support someone if they are not activly trying to take my guns away. Many Politicans were blackballed for wanting to mandate that All new firearms sold provide a trigger lock for the ower to use if they choose. The main reason for this push was to give parents another tool to protect their kids who do not always act properly even if they are taught properly.
This is just one example, I do not consider that anti-gun.
Many Politicans were blackballed for wanting to mandate that All new firearms sold provide a trigger lock for the ower to use if they choose.
No, a lot of those politicians were blackballed for wanting to make the use of triggerlocks or other disabling devices MANDATORY whenever a gun is not in use. Liberals love to use the excuse that " it' s for the children" to justify absurd and oppressive legislation. What good is a defensive firearm that MUST be stored unloaded and locked up by either a trigger lock or in a safe? Any disabling device that still allows a gun to be made ready quickly under combat conditions where a couple seconds delay will get one killed, isn' t going to stop a kid from misusing it. That' s just a fact. What the liberals just can' t accept is that parents can teach their kids proper and safe gun handling, and by allowing their kids to participate in shooting activities with their parents it takes the mystique out of guns. Instead the liberals like to pass repressive " knee jerk" legislation, or just as often carefully crafted " sensible gun laws" that slowly erode the rights we are blessed with, and make people totally dependant on the government for their security.
Who would you vote for if Sillary decided to run in ' 04 and won the liberal nomination, her or Bush? You you believe her when she told you that she wasn' t interested in taking away your turkey gun, even when she has a solid reputation for being rabidly anti-gun rights? Every liberal says the same thing before an election, claiming to be for stricter gun " safety" laws while promising not to take YOUR gun away, and somehow many gun owners, like yourself, are suckered by their false promises every election and vote for these idiots. Then the same ones complain when their rights are trampled on for the false promise of government provided " safety."
The simple fact is, with VERY few exceptions, that a vote for a democrat is a vote in favor of gun control, whether you like it or not. And a liberal will flat out lie to your face to get your vote. That isn' t to say that the GOP deserves an untarnished pro-rights reputation either, but they are definately the better choice if you want your kids to grow up enjoying the same shooting passtimes and protection you enjoy now. The BEST bet would be if we could get more Libertarians elected, but that' s not likely in the near future because of the strangle hold the two major parties have on election politics.
CalHunter, your right there aint none. Thats the problem there cowards and are afraid of the liberals.they have no backbone anymore. Wonder How George Washington or Teddy Roosevelt would of voted???? to many tip toe through the tulip make a deal nitwits in office. Send me to Congress or the senate,first I would not want any pay,they couldn' t blackmail me.I would vote my way and if they would want to try and cut a deal I would run them out of my motorhome with my AK. Yep no fancy office with big jugged secretaries.I would park my motorhome in the parking lot and live in it.I would wear camo,buckskins and vote to eliminate the income tax. I would want to reduce there pay,take away their unjustified benefit package and expense accounts. And no lawyers could hold office. Plus much ,much more.
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