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Old 09-09-2003, 01:29 PM   #1
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Judge allows 9/11 lawsuits against airlines, others

NEW YORK (AP) "” The crashing of a hijacked jetliner was the kind of " foreseeable risk" that the airline industry should have guarded against, a judge ruled Tuesday as he permitted lawsuits related to the Sept. 11 attacks to proceed.
U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein said negligent security screening could have contributed to the deaths of 3,000 people in the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and the crash of a hijacked plane in Pennsylvania.

" The aviation defendants controlled who came onto the planes and what was carried aboard. They had the obligation to take reasonable care in screening," he wrote.

American and United Airlines, the Boeing Co. and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey had attempted to get the suits dismissed, arguing they had no duty to anticipate and guard against deliberate, suicidal aircraft crashes. The defendants also argued any alleged negligence on their part was not the cause of the deaths and injuries.

In his 49-page ruling, Hellerstein said that while it may be true that terrorists had never deliberately flown airplanes into buildings, " airlines reasonably could foresee that crashes causing death and destruction on the ground was a hazard that would arise should hijackers take control of a plane."

" The intrusion by terrorists into the cockpit, coupled with the volatility of a hijacking situation, creates a foreseeable risk that hijacked airplanes might crash, jeopardizing innocent lives on the ground as well as in the airplane," he added.

" In order to be considered foreseeable, the precise manner in which the harm was inflicted need not be perfectly predicted," Hellerstein wrote.

The judge said the evidence he had seen does not support Boeing' s argument that the invasion and takeover of the cockpit by the terrorists frees it from liability. The plaintiffs argued Boeing should have designed its cockpit door to prevent hijackers from invading.

He also said the Port Authority, which owns the World Trade Center property, " has not shown that it will prove its defense of governmental immunity as to negligence allegations made by WTC occupants."

Spokesmen for the Port Authority, Boeing and the airlines did not immediately return calls seeking comment Tuesday.

Marc Moller, a lawyer who represents several hundred victims and relatives of victims, said the ruling created an opportunity that some families were concerned might not exist.

" They are important findings but they are preliminary," he said. " He has not said that the airplanes are liable. He said that that if the plaintiffs can prove their case, the airlines could be liable. The litigation risks lie ahead and they are great."

The judge noted in the ruling that he was required to view the allegations in a light most favorable to the plaintiffs at this stage of the legal process. The decision was based on the cases of about 70 of the injured and dead.

As a result of the ruling, court officials were preparing for a possible legal onslaught at the Manhattan courthouse as early as this week as some people choose lawsuits over applying to the federal victims compensation fund. To receive a payout from the fund, families must agree not to sue airlines or other entities.

Dec. 22 is the last day families may apply to the federal victims compensation fund, created by Congress to provide financial aid to the families of those killed or injured in the attacks, and to protect the commercial aviation industry from crippling litigation.

As of late August, 2,275 claims had been filed. But roughly 1,700 families had yet to decide whether to enroll with the fund or join lawsuits against the airlines, security companies and government agencies.

The average payout so far has been about $1.5 million, with the highest award $6.8 million. The minimum payout is $250,000.

The fund has made offers averaging $1.41 million to 398 families thus far. About 1,600 families have filed papers stating an interest in applying for the fund.
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Old 09-09-2003, 01:34 PM   #2
 
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The judge said the evidence he had seen does not support Boeing' s argument that the invasion and takeover of the cockpit by the terrorists frees it from liability. The plaintiffs argued Boeing should have designed its cockpit door to prevent hijackers from invading.
How freakin' assinine![:@] Someone ought to sue the box cutter makers because they should have known that a box cutter can be used in this kind of sicko perverted action. Be sure to sue the people who sold the steel to the builders of the WTC because that much steel enabled the Port Authority to build such a huge building that should have figured some freakin' nuts would decide to fly a plane into![:@][:@] What about the people who supplied the jet fuel that enabled the plane not only to fly, but become a bomb - those son-of-a guns should have realized that that much fuel could cause a lot of damage to something if they used it in a plane and decided to run it into a building. CRIPES! Makes me freakin sick[X(]
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Old 09-09-2003, 01:37 PM   #3
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Thank God. I thought I was the only one who found this completely discusting[:@]
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Old 09-09-2003, 01:44 PM   #4
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How freakin' assinine!
Amen! Evertime something horrible happens, people need to find somebody to blame. Well, the ones to blame here are the terrorists! They, and the people backing them, are solely responsible for the deaths of thousands of people. Of course there' s no money in trying to sue dead people![:@]So some people are going to try to aim for where they can get the money, right or wrong! Unbelievable![:@]
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Old 09-09-2003, 02:07 PM   #5
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I' ve said this all along.
The insurance companies should hold the airlines liable,thus taking all of the cost off of the taxpayers.

Even a damn cabbie is responsible for his cargo, why not an airline?

them pushing the cost off on us is ludicrious.
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Old 09-09-2003, 02:54 PM   #6
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fng,

I thought you were all about personal accountability?

The way I see it, it' s about the same as anti' s blaming the gun-makers for violent crimes..
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:00 PM   #7
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The way I see it, it' s about the same as anti' s blaming the gun-makers for violent crimes..
That is how I see it too
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:09 PM   #8
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vc1111 again marches down the road of vindication for his support of the airline bailouts.

Of course they will be held responsible...now and in the future. Its the American way.

The cost of the security updates alone justified a large part of the bailout money.

The level of responsibility they bear will increase in the future as a result of both the incident (9/11) and this litigation...." it happened, you were already sued for it once, so you should have taken all precautions to prevent it from ever happening again."
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if this proceeds like it is , and the airlines lose , and beings they' re allready struggling to keep going this could destroy several airline companies , and cripple us. this is definitely not good
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Old 09-09-2003, 08:27 PM   #10
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do we have a season on Judges?
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