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Old 02-21-2012, 08:16 PM   #11
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I'm just glad to hear from you... I've been recovering from a car wreck eight months ago and hopefully I can return back to work... Man it's good to hear from you again. Russ has gone off the deep end or something; he just lives a few miles away, but I think he's having personal problems. I talked to him right after my wreck, but he doesn't call or email me anymore.
I hope you get to feeling better; people that haven't been in that circumstand just don't understand the pain and recovery time.

PM and I'll send you my phone number, maybe I can catch up to you somewhere.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:10 AM   #12
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Ok, I was going to keep my mouth shut, but it's not like you didn't know it was coming....
No problem. Inability to keep one's mouth shut seems to be a general affliction among Republicans these days. See what it did for Rick Perry?

You guys have had 4 years of listening to the bubble headed bleach blonde merchants of propaganda on Fox; 4 years of absorbing misinformation from bloggers the likes of Brietbart; and 4 years of repeating these little myths back and forth to each other in this inbred Obama bashing enclave until you are absolute believers. The sheer number of things you want me to respond to is proof enough of that. I decline to participate in such a foolish endeavor.

Well, maybe one point. Gas prices. Rather than use our supplies to keep prices low and help with economic recovery, the ever-so-patriotic oil companies exported a record amount of fuel to Europe and Latin America. As a result, we spent a record amount for gas in America last year and it's going to be even worse this year. Now, about that pipeline... Why should I be in favor of us paying to build a pipeline, then piping Canadian oil to Texas only to see it exported in record amounts so I can pay record amounts to keep my vehicle running? Just to enhance oil companies already obscene profits?? And we're still giving oil companies billions of dollars in subsidies so they can screw us over.

And so, I am more on board with alternative energy programs than ever. Free market demands oil companies have competition, doesn't it? Discuss it among yourselves.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-12-31/united-states-export/52298812/1

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwor...ord-high-70261

Of course, Fox is all over the story... but if you sneezed you probably missed it.

http://nation.foxnews.com/us-exports...-us-exportfuel
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:18 AM   #13
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I'm just glad to hear from you...
Refreshing to see that it IS possible to disagree with someone, yet still find decency enough to be civil to them.

Best wishes to both of you in your recoveries, whether I agree with either of you or not.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:40 AM   #14
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Inability to keep one's mouth shut seems to be a general affliction among Republicans these days.
Well, you brought it up, and this is a pollitical discussion board. One should expect to be challenged when they jump in and start slinging totally unfounded slurs.

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The sheer number of things you want me to respond to is proof enough of that. I decline to participate in such a foolish endeavor.
Understood. I only scratched the surface, and there is no defense for bho or for entrusting your vote to him (again). I agree--to try to defend such would be foolish.


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Well, maybe one point. Gas prices. Rather than use our supplies to keep prices low and help with economic recovery, the ever-so-patriotic oil companies exported a record amount of fuel to Europe and Latin America.
What?????? When President Bush was in office, it was all on him. Now he's not in office, so it has nothing to do with the POTUS?

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As a result, we spent a record amount for gas in America last year and it's going to be even worse this year.
How soon we forget...this was bho's plan all along. Remember how he was fine with $5 per gallon gasoline--it was his goal when campaigning? At least that's one promise it seems he plans to keep.

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Why should I be in favor of us paying to build a pipeline, then piping Canadian oil to Texas only to see it exported in record amounts so I can pay record amounts to keep my vehicle running?
Of course it's much better to pay middle eastern countries that hate us that money rather than Canada.

As far as where it goes...it's market driven. If you can sell your widget to your neighbor for $1, or send it to someone else for $5, I guess you are evil for not letting your neighbor have it.

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And we're still giving oil companies billions of dollars in subsidies so they can screw us over.
Like GM did? How come their record profits are a good thing?

How are we getting screwed by oil companies? We could be drilling, building refineries, etc. and influence the market in a big way...if bho and his environmentalist cronies would allow it.



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And so, I am more on board with alternative energy programs than ever.
I am too, when one that is practical, logical, and market-driven is discovered. Companies like Solyndra just suck up huge amounts of tax dollars and give us nothing in return. At least "big oil" provides a product.

Anyhow, I hope you have a swift and full recovery and can get a bow back in your hands.

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Old 02-22-2012, 06:04 AM   #15
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And we're still giving oil companies billions of dollars in subsidies so they can screw us over.
Like GM did? How come their record profits are a good thing?
And I would like to add, G.E. paid no taxes. Oil companies did. Actually, G.E. made 48 billion bucks off the tax payer. What was that about greedy oil companies? I get it, its ok to give G.E. money and have them move 20% of their company to China, yet it is wrong for a oil company to sell on a world market?

And let’s not forget the amount of money given to G.E., as well as the economic advisory position Jeff Emilete received from Obama (shhhh, don’t remind our liberals that they cried foul about Cheney for doing what Obama has taken to a whole new level in cronie capitalism) Only a liberal can ignore one and praise the other.

But hey, 48 billion dollars for a battery that will burn your house down. Yeeeee haawwwww, lets all praise Obama. Let’s not get me started on green energy. I am all for it, but you have to have it before you can push people off oil. Again, only a liberal can justify throwing billions at companies, who the Democratic and Republican administrations both said will go bankrupt. But then again, it’s a great way to laundry money for your campaign. Give billions to companies, with legal jargon stating that share holders get paid back before tax payer, and then have that money find its way back in the hand of your bundlers, aka the C.E.O.s of said companies
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:20 AM   #16
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Let’s not get me started on green energy. I am all for it, but you have to have it before you can push people off oil.
Great point. Look at it logically. First, batteries don't generate energy--they only store it. They have to be charged. Where is that energy going to come from, especially in the summer when large portions of the country already suffer from blackouts?

Second, what kind of fit are the greenies going to pitch in 6 or 8 years when all those batteries are useless and have to be disposed of?

Also, what are people going to do with their useless hunk of metal when the batteries quit? Who can affort to put that much into a car that will have zero trade-in after less than 10 years?

I don't see this as a Dem/Rep or Lib/Conservative argument. It's plain and simple common sense, and the future of our country hinges on whether people vote with their brain or their emotions.
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:58 AM   #17
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How awesome it was to talk to Art this morning; we must have spent over an hour on the phone. What a super nice guy, that goes to show that the love of archery exceeds the bounds of political differences. I hope to get to see him soon, he only lives about 40 miles north of me.


I know many of us argue and fuss over political differences however I'm so glad we live in a country that we can agree to disagree, in some parts of the world you are killed for not having the same views.

If I've offended you because of your political views, you'll get over it!

Whoever it was that told Art we've been asking about him... THANKS!
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know many of us argue and fuss over political differences however I'm so glad we live in a country that we can agree to disagree, in some parts of the world you are killed for not having the same views.
Bingo, Rev. i lived and worked in a couple countries like that.
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:47 AM   #19
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No problem. Inability to keep one's mouth shut seems to be a general affliction among Republicans these days. See what it did for Rick Perry?
I’m no Republican, but it appears you are missing the biggest loud mouths, you know, those pesky liberals running your party. I guess you conveniently look past Biden, Waters, Obama ,Jackson Lee, Weinert, Dipstick from florida (whats that goofs name that was voted out Grason or something????), Pelosi, etc. etc.. I have yet to see a single Republican act as badly as what I see from the Democrats as a whole. Your simple picking a choosing to meet your goal. Yes Perry is crazy, that is why I have yet to voted for him, but to say he is any worse than Waters, Jackson Lee, or any of the other jokes from the Democratic party is simply asinine.

I use to be a Democrate. I grew up and figured them out. Never again will I make the mistake of voting for a Democrat. If they purged themselves of the secular progressives and liberals, I might consider them again. And since they are ran by the secular progressives and liberal, I simply hope the party dies and is replaced with a sain party.
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:57 AM   #20
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How awesome it was to talk to Art this morning; we must have spent over an hour on the phone. What a super nice guy, that goes to show that the love of archery exceeds the bounds of political differences. I hope to get to see him soon, he only lives about 40 miles north of me.


I know many of us argue and fuss over political differences however I'm so glad we live in a country that we can agree to disagree, in some parts of the world you are killed for not having the same views.

If I've offended you because of your political views, you'll get over it!

Whoever it was that told Art we've been asking about him... THANKS!
It is great, but I can't look past stupid that easy. When the stupid is banking on the demise of my childs future (aka the liberal followers). It is not as easy to smile and eat a chit sandwich someone is trying to force down my throat. Call me calus if you will, to me its more about love for my family and their future. Discord does not supercede blind following or a push for personal gains over the future of my kids.
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