Are they true Seekers after Knowledge hoping to rising to a higher plane of enlightenment through exposure to our Wisdom?
Or are they a schizophrenic afflicted with multiple personality manifestations?
No, falcon has been around for a little while.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
The USA policy towards Israel has always puzzled me. What do we actually depend on Israel for? Not much that I can see.
And - What do we depend on The Arab nations for? Quite a large percentage of our national energy needs. It has always seemed to me that if we back away from our constant support of Israel and let them sink or swim on their own - that it would solve a whole bunch of our terrorist problems. I believe, that it is our support of Israel that makes the Muslims hate us so much. We have been biting the hand that feeds us oil for a long time now. I may be wrong in this - but I don't think so.
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Warren
If you argue for your limitations - sure enough - they are yours.
Yep, we should reward dictators and punish democracies. That makes perfect sense.
So I got a question, since so many of you blame isreal for defending itself and really think they, an take care of themselves, do you support removing the handcuffs placed on them for decades? Should they be allowed to take care of business once and for all? If pushed into the corner, is it ok for them to drop a nuke?
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
I never said,, "I blame Israel for defending itself " - Frankly - I don't care what they do. I just don't think we should be involved in it.
It only seems like common sense to me- to "make nice" with the people we depend on for so much, and not walk such a political tight rope the way we have been doing over there. It just isn't necessary to my way of thinking.
Israel is stronger than they let on - with their nukes - and I just think we should stay out of it and let them work it out in their own way.
As to supporting dictators and punishing democracies - that was about the silliest statement you have made in a while FM. Jeez - We supported The Shah of Iran for many years - and what a nice guy he was EH? We have also been on the wrong side in a bunch of other countries, by supporting anybody as long as they were not a communist, and some of the people we supported were really bad.
What part of this makes sense? All of the Arabs hate Israel and want to destroy her. We depend on the Arabs for a large percentage of our national energy needs - eg OIL - yet, we - in essence - are telling them that they are not important when we constantly come out in favor of Israel, and you wonder why they hate us?
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Warren
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Without Israel we have no footing in the middle east. Take that how you want. Something else to consider, without the u.s. as the big dog on the chain, Israel would see mass genocide. Yea Israel has the strongest army in the middle east, but that can only buy them so much time until Egypt, Syria, Iran, and others finish the job Hitler started.
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kaafir mushrik
Unintended consequences and God have one thing in common: Liberals don’t believe in either of them.
I never said,, "I blame Israel for defending itself " - Frankly - I don't care what they do. I just don't think we should be involved in it.
It only seems like common sense to me- to "make nice" with the people we depend on for so much, and not walk such a political tight rope the way we have been doing over there. It just isn't necessary to my way of thinking.
Israel is stronger than they let on - with their nukes - and I just think we should stay out of it and let them work it out in their own way.
As to supporting dictators and punishing democracies - that was about the silliest statement you have made in a while FM. Jeez - We supported The Shah of Iran for many years - and what a nice guy he was EH? We have also been on the wrong side in a bunch of other countries, by supporting anybody as long as they were not a communist, and some of the people we supported were really bad.
What part of this makes sense? All of the Arabs hate Israel and want to destroy her. We depend on the Arabs for a large percentage of our national energy needs - eg OIL - yet, we - in essence - are telling them that they are not important when we constantly come out in favor of Israel, and you wonder why they hate us?
First, it wasn't really directed towards you. I find it amazing how some many want to abandon Israel and for what? When it gets down to it, we really don't support them all that much other than running interference inside the UN. Last time I checked, the UN are a bunch of bastards that pile on us just as much. It ain't because of Israel. It's because of our power. And that goes for Israel. A country that just wants to live in peace.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
Israel = Gods' Chosen People(who's suffered greatly by His hand thruout their exsistence for being non-believers)
Iran(and all other Muslim of Arab blood) = Ishmaels' offspring,and Isreals' enemy.
What goes on between those people date back farther than 1948, and our status of "friend" with Israel WAS,repeat WAS, based on Religious motives. now they are concidered Allie due to shared stance against terrorism/common enemy..as well as us having the fortune of sharing our nukes with them(keeping OUR nukes elsewhere in other strategic global areas).
noone will ever defeat Isreal...ever.
not due to what Technology we may have shared, but because of WHO THEY ARE......
you don't have to believe whats' already written... just hang around and watch....
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If pushed into the corner, is it ok for them to drop a nuke?
You mean the nukes they aren't supposed to have? You do realize they have never signed the non proliferation treaty so we aren't supposed to be sending them any military funding, if they cam eout and admitted to have nukes.
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When it gets down to it, we really don't support them all that much other than running interference inside the UN.
and the billions we send them every year.
What do they do to support us, ever fought on our side in a conflict?
Keep our military secrets? If they do get hit with anything from iran the missle will most likely be guided to it's target with a guidence sysytem devolped by the USA sold to israel which then then sold to China and then to Iran. Kinda Ironic don't you think.
Also don't trust a goverment that has memebers of Mossad vidoe taping and laughing as the twin towers were burning, and their Prime minister saying things like"911 will be good for israel"
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