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Old 01-05-2012, 10:03 PM   #1
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With the Iraq War officially over and the Army downsizing in the face of defense budget pressure, more troops will be making the transition back to civilian life -- a potentially challenging prospect given the state of the economy.
But for those who want to stay in uniform, there may be a new option emerging -- just not an American one. Australia has put out the "Help Wanted" sign for foreign national veterans.
"We are looking for serving or ex-serving foreign military personnel, who can directly transfer their job and life skills to whichever Service they join, with limited training and preparation," the Australian Defence Force has announced on its website.
Jobs to be filled include special forces types, intelligence officers and submariners, according to the announcement, but the separate recruitment pages for each service branch show that the Aussies will consider veterans with a broad range of military experience.
As the U.S. tightens its defense belt slightly over the next year, the Army and Marine Corps will cut end strength by thousands of men and women. The Army expects to lose about 7,400 Soldiers by October, to reach an end strength of 562,000.

The Corps eventually plans shrinking its manpower by about 16,000 to reach a total Marine force of 186,800. The Navy already has brought down its numbers by more than 50,000 since reaching a wartime strength of 383,000 during the build-up for the Iraq invasion. It expects to ship another 3,000 Sailors off to civilian life by next fall.

Only the Air Force expects to add people next year, but just a few hundred; and its end strength of about 333,000 for 2012 will still be about 40,000 Airmen lighter than it was in 2004.
According to the U.S. State Department, the U.S. and Australia each recognize dual citizenship. Serving in the military of one is not listed as a cause for losing citizenship in the other. The Australian defense site also notes that security clearances acquired while in the U.S. military are transferable to the Australian military.
"Australia is a great country and staunch ally, and aside from a common language, we share the same values and beliefs," said Joe Davis, a spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars. "As our military begins to downsize, it could be a great opportunity for those who want to continue serving."
Among veterans who saw a story on the Aussie recruiting announcement posted to the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America site on Tuesday, a number said they would consider making the move Down Under, and some indicated enthusiasm for the idea.
Ricardo Mireles of Texas, a retired Navy man, posted that if he were just out of the Navy, he'd "be there in a heartbeat, no doubt!"
"Why not?" posted Laci DeLisle, whose Facebook page shows her in an Army uniform, hugging family members at an airport. "People here are trying to stay in when they don't need us anymore. I'd be down for it. Probably get better accommodations than the U.S. Army provides, but that really wouldn't take much."
But other posters were adamant they would never wear another country's uniform.
"Can't ever imagine putting my life on the line for another country," posted Larry Josefowski, an Iraq War veteran and Army reservist in Delaware, "even for Australia."





I was just curious what everyones opinion was on the subject.
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:21 PM   #2
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Soldier for hire, pretty common nowadays, blackwater? ie US defense contractor, I'm quite certain we've hired foreigners to fight in our wars, so what's the difference in another country hiring our men? esp our unemployed men?


Rather another country hire these guys then them soaking off the US gov't welfare, foodstamps, medicare, etc...
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:40 AM   #3
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Whats wrong with all of those those red blooded Aussie men? Guess they think their country's not worth fighting for. Australia and its draconian gun laws can go pound sand.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:51 AM   #4
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Rather another country hire these guys then them soaking off the US gov't welfare, foodstamps, medicare, etc...
What's the basis for that statement? What makes you think that our soldiers would go on welfare after leaving/retireing from the U.S. Armed Forces? And since when did a democrat care about someone going on welfare to begin with? Oh yeah...soldiers are more likely to vote conservative/Republican, and even though they have served their country they don't deserve welfare like so much of the democrat voting base....
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Soldier for hire, pretty common nowadays, blackwater? ie US defense contractor, I'm quite certain we've hired foreigners to fight in our wars, so what's the difference in another country hiring our men? esp our unemployed men?


Rather another country hire these guys then them soaking off the US gov't welfare, foodstamps, medicare, etc...
ahh....so you don't want them to become demokrats....
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:47 AM   #6
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Rather another country hire these guys then them soaking off the US gov't welfare, foodstamps, medicare, etc...
Oops, i missed that one. Are welfare, foodstamps, medicare, etc.... reserved for people whose Democrat families have been on the dole for generations?


Get your butt down to the Army recruiter and sign up for infantry. Tell me that same crap after you served two or three combat tours.
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I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:25 PM   #8
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Unlike your demokratik kameraden, these returning veterans generally prefer to live productive lives, find employment on their own, and thumb their noses at the handouts that otherwise enslave an entirely ignorant and self-serving segment of this country.

I spent yesterday afternoon at a VA hospital. They might be sightless and limbless, but I'm sure any of the guys I waited with there are still more than capable of bringing you the scunion.
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The Aussie's are no fools, they want the best, without putting out for the training.
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:30 PM   #10
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In that part of the world, it's all about China. China has sent their first aircraft carrier out for a 2nd or 3rd round of sea trials.
They're flexing their muscle and talking about "stabilizing" their of influence.

China is addicted to Australia's minerals, especially iron ore. China was able to supply all the material needs of it's people frmithin it's won borders for 2,000+ yrs. Not any more. Lately they've been playing the bully in Philippine waters.

If Australia wants to bolster its forces for domestic security, regional stability, and strengthen it's alliance with the US...fine by me.
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