Got to get the illegals legal before 2012 vote. At all costs.

[DylanT]

Originally Posted by bergall

I don't see where anything i posted is incorrect. But ok...let's play it your way....what are Mexican businessmen using to come here to do business with, now ? Nothing ? If so, why do they need visas now ? THe administration has made it clear that it intends to do nothing about anything, so why do you think he's addressing this now ? Maybe if he can issue 20 million BUSINESS visas, the immigrants are no longer illegal, they can be called something different, and give them the right to vote (which is the demo-skank's ultimate goal anyway) under some speicial, to be fabricated classification ?

To explain this to you again:

1. Mexican citizens require a visa to request admission to the U.S. (source: State Department http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/ty...s_1274.html#4]

2. An individual coming to the US on a business visa is not an illegal immigrant. They are not an "immigrant". They are a "visitor" coming temporarily for the purpose of "business", usually defined as r=trade between the US and another country.

3. A visa does not grant the right to vote. That only occurs when you are a citizen, a process that takes a MINIMUM of five years once you have been granted residency, which is another long process in itself and not the result of being granted a business visa.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

[bergall]

Originally Posted by DylanT

To explain this to you again:

1. Mexican citizens require a visa to request admission to the U.S. (source: State Department http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/ty...s_1274.html#4]

2. An individual coming to the US on a business visa is not an illegal immigrant. They are not an "immigrant". They are a "visitor" coming temporarily for the purpose of "business", usually defined as r=trade between the US and another country.

3. A visa does not grant the right to vote. That only occurs when you are a citizen, a process that takes a MINIMUM of five years once you have been granted residency, which is another long process in itself and not the result of being granted a business visa.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

ok smart guy answer me this:

why are immigration officials being pressured to lighten up on the granting of said visas and rush them thru ? More importantly, NONE OF THOSE VISAS ARE TRACKED SO WE CAN BE SURE THAT WHEN THE VISA EXPIRES, UNO MEXICANO GOES BACK TO MEXICO ? Same as with student visas...they go to school...they finish or drop out and then disappear. This is a bullcrap 'grease the skids' complicit effort by the administration to get illegal aliens (THAT'S WHAT THEY BECOME WHEN THEY OVERSTAY THEIR VISAS) in the country. To what purpose ? Why the threats, intimidation and punishment for officials exercising their authority in the granting or denial of said visas ? Wake up scooter...something stinks.

[DylanT]

Originally Posted by bergall

ok smart guy answer me this:

why are immigration officials being pressured to lighten up on the granting of said visas and rush them thru ? More importantly, NONE OF THOSE VISAS ARE TRACKED SO WE CAN BE SURE THAT WHEN THE VISA EXPIRES, UNO MEXICANO GOES BACK TO MEXICO ? Same as with student visas...they go to school...they finish or drop out and then disappear. This is a bullcrap 'grease the skids' complicit effort by the administration to get illegal aliens (THAT'S WHAT THEY BECOME WHEN THEY OVERSTAY THEIR VISAS) in the country. To what purpose ? Why the threats, intimidation and punishment for officials exercising their authority in the granting or denial of said visas ? Wake up scooter...something stinks.

Not prejudicing the issue having not seen any of the documentation referred to in the story I would say that the answer lies in the story: "“When you’re dealing with business visas, those visas cannot wait around a year, or two years, for review. They needed an answer yesterday.”

Visas are tracked through US-Visit and if you are planning on entering the United States legally with a business visa it is probably more difficult -- with burden of proof of intent -- than crossing the border illegally.

I'd also suggest that getting people into the US conducting legitimate business is a good thing - for the economy and American jobs. We cannot deny people entry for legitimate purpose.