logo
 

Go Back   HuntingNet.com Forums > Non Hunting > Politics

Politics Nothing goes with politics quite like crying and complaining, and we're a perfect example of that.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-19-2003, 12:36 PM   #1
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Marysville WA USA
Posts: 760
Default Study on 2nd amendment & individual rights to bear arms

Hopefully this will go somewhere
Quote:
A six-year study of Supreme Court cases has found scores of " forgotten decisions" affecting the " highly contested" constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

Titled " Supreme Court Gun Cases," the study examines 92 cases "“ 44 of them unedited "“ and concludes without a doubt " the Supreme Court has recognized an individual right to arms for most of the past two centuries."

The study, available for order next month, is " the most important set of words written about your constitutional guarantees," said Alan Korwin, a firearms and legal researcher and co-author of the report.

Korwin, along with co-authors David B. Kopel and Dr. Stephen P. Halbrook, show the nation' s highest court " has not been quiet on this subject as previously thought."

Kopel and Halbrook are attorneys.

The authors say justices use some form of the word gun 2,910 times in the nearly 100 cases involving gun rights.

" Three dozen of the cases quote or mention the Second Amendment directly," says a statement by Bloomfield Press, publisher of the study.

The authors also show how the Supreme Court has recognized and supported armed self defense " with personally owned firearms" and that " an ancient ' duty to retreat' " from a threat " is not obligatory."

Also, the study shows " the oft-cited Miller case from 1939 is inconclusive, which is why gun-rights and gun-control advocates both claim it supports their position."

Gun control advocates say the Miller case showed the Second Amendment' s " right to keep and bear arms" is granted only to states so they can arm their militias, not private citizens. The high court essentially upheld the government' s authority to prosecute a person for possession of a sawed-off shotgun. However, opponents of gun control say the ruling reinforced the individual' s right to keep and bear arms but only those weapons commonly used in militias.

Either way, " the record shows the [high] court actually remanded this case back to the lower court for retrial and a hearing on the evidence, since there was no evidence presented," Bloomfield Press said. " Because Miller had been murdered by that time and his co-defendant had taken a plea agreement, no retrial or evidentiary hearing was ever held."

In the study, more than 1,000 " interesting" quotations are highlighted, the authors said. Each case includes " a plain-English description" and a special " ' descriptive index' reduces each case to the firearms-related questions(s) it answers."

Justices " have not been quiet on the subject, and they have not disparaged individual rights "“ the days of saying that are now over," said Bloomberg. " The high court could change its mind, of course, but only by rejecting a record built up for hundreds of years."
__________________
Washington's Wild Turkey Resource
WANWTF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2003, 07:41 PM   #2
Typical Buck
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: KUNKLETOWN PA United States
Posts: 872
Send a message via Yahoo to whelen36
Default RE: Study on 2nd amendment & individual rights to bear arms

that' s an interesting read , thanks , it' s good to know that the supreme court has been mainly pro second amendment but , we have to vote for the right people to see to it that it stays that way
__________________
freedom , firearms , and fun
whelen36 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2003, 08:29 PM   #3
Giant Nontypical
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Missouri USA
Posts: 5,420
Default RE: Study on 2nd amendment & individual rights to bear arms

Yeah whelen36 and get some of Bushes appointed judges into office. The stinking liberal judges we have now is one of the main problems we as gun owners have.
__________________
THE NRA, WHERE WOULD YOU AS A GUN-OWNER BE WITHOUT THEM.
GUN-OWNERS, UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.
strut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2003, 07:34 AM   #4
Giant Nontypical
 
eldeguello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
Posts: 6,277
Default RE: Study on 2nd amendment & individual rights to bear arms

What never ceases to amaze me is the fact that NOT ONE LIBERAL ANTIGUNNER, NOR ANYONE ELSE, questions the fact that, of the first ten amendments to the Consitution, AMENDMENT NO. 1, AND NOs. 3 THROUGH 10, guarantee individual liberties. But these morons continue to insist that Amendment 2 only gives the STATES the right to maintain a militia! WHAT BIZARRE LOGIC THEY USE TO COME TO THIS CONCLUSION IS A REAL MYSTERY TO ME!!

In 1787, THERE WAS NO DOUBT AT ALL that States had a right to maintain militias!! THAT' S WHERE THE CONTINENTAL ARMY CAME FROM-STATE MILITIAS!!

If one reads the FEDERALIST PAPERS, and the record of the debates that resulted in the Constitution, there can be NO DOUBT AT ALL that the Founding Fathers wrote the Second Amendment to keep a tyrannical government from disarming the PEOPLE AS INDIVIDUALS, as the ULTIMATE CHECK on governmental power to oppress the peopel!!

This right is today more important than ever, considering the assaults upon personal liberties coming from such a myriad of sources, foreign and domestic both!!
__________________
"Bitte, trinks du das Wasser nicht. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen."
eldeguello is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
abc news tonight 2nd amendment rights bowtruck Northeast 1 02-26-2009 05:28 PM
Our 2nd amendment rights. AR Bowhunter Politics 2 12-05-2008 05:10 AM
What does the 2nd Amendment REALLY mean? (Interesting study) badshotbob Politics 14 10-23-2008 10:04 PM
2nd Amendment--Individual RKBA?? CalHunter Politics 10 03-20-2007 04:45 PM
2nd Amendment Rights and Limits?? CalHunter Politics 21 03-06-2007 11:34 AM

 

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:26 AM.