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Old 11-09-2011, 02:44 AM   #1
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Default Mississippi Voters Reject Abortion Ban

MS voters have rejected an amendment to the state constitution that would have outlawed abortion:

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JACKSON, Miss (Reuters) - Mississippi voters on Tuesday rejected an amendment to the state constitution aimed at outlawing abortion, a setback for abortion opponents seeking to overturn the Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion in the United States.

With 85 percent of the precincts reporting, 58 percent of voters had voted against the measure and 42 percent had voted for it, according to the Clarion-Ledger newspaper in Jackson, Mississippi, the state capital.

Had the so-called "personhood amendment" passed, Mississippi would have been the first U.S. state to define a fertilized egg as a legal person. The measure would have banned abortion without exceptions for rape or incest victims. It also would have outlawed some types of birth control and infertility methods resulting in the loss of embryos.
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:22 AM   #2
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No it would not outlaw abortions, it would give the state an opportunity to legalize some form of genocide. It would make the state declare it believed in killing some of it's own people instead of hiding behind a law that said they did not.

So for now the state is not only killing some of it's own but grossly lying about what it's doing. In the mean time the people have made strange bedfellows of the state and the state can use that to get the people to give them what they want in return.

That's not law and order, that's lawlessness approved by law and will lead to very bad times.

The people have denied freedom to the weakest among them, killed them and to top if off made a national claim to that effect. Make no mistake about it, that's going to lead to very serious consequences. It would've been better for them if they'd never been given the chance to declare themselves, but they have and will have to live with it.

Pa made a similar national declaration that didn't involve killing it's own a few years ago and ever since been in one scandal after another in that bed. The declaration involved their educational system, hmmm.
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:13 AM   #3
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What the hell are you talking about ? THe referendum failed. They revert to federal law. They may 'regulate' and 'restrict' within reason. To outlaw the practice in direct opposition to federal law would have resulted in a lawsuit that would, in my estimation, never withstood constitutional muster. In this case, "The People" of the state of Mississippi did what would have taken the courts millions of dollars and months of litigation. I don't understand your post.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:02 AM   #4
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I was shocked and dissapointed, as was the media. I thought this one would be a landslide.

I have to think that it was, in part, due to the ridiculous and misleading "postcards" that "planned parenthood"--under the guise of some bogus name (Mississippians for Healthy Families or something like that) sent out, even yesterday. They featured adults smiling and laughing and playing with children and babies--what hypocrites....

They resorted to lies and slander, going as far as to get their "chaplain" to pose as a Southern Baptist preacher (he wore a collar--dead giveaway) from here and spreading lies about what the law would do.

On a brighter note, I think all but one (?) state office was filled by Republicans--the major ones at least.

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Old 11-09-2011, 06:05 AM   #5
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From what I understand, the Right-to-Life movement did not support this. Supposedly even the Catholic bishops stayed neutral on it. I didn't research why the RTL crowd didn't support it though.
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Does anybody actually think that with Roe v. Wade still in effect, that a state ban on abortions could have been enacted and not challenged and ultimately defeated ? Look at the D.C. handgun ban decision to see the future that would have befallen this legislation.

as far as expectations of anything....I have long since given up any hope that the american people have the intellect to choose their government and laws wisely. Demokrats still exist and breathe when that corrupt and sick and twisted party should have ceased. But no, we are a shadow of our former selves as a nation...we've flushed our morality down the toilet and allowed duplicity and chicanery to guide our schizophrenic society.
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I'd honestly not considered a court challenge, and you are probably right--it would have been challenged and shot down with the taxpayers footing the bill.

I forgot to mention we did pass two other laws that made good sense--requireing a gov't I.D. to vote, and severely restricting eminent domain.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:06 AM   #8
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I'm very disappointed by the outcome, but I can't say it really surprises me. Nowadays, what people call "liberty" is really licentiousness. A lot of people, many Mississippians included, want to get off when and where and how they please and not be forced to bear the consequences of their actions.

I used to be a rabid pro-choicer, and looking back, it was because I was extremely selfish. I wasn't going to force my wife to have an abortion if it came to that, but I just didn't want to allow anyone else to dictate what we do with our bodies or children. Sadly, I was alone. Not by a long shot.

But, the pro-life movement has made some significant gains in the past few years. It looks like it'll be two steps forward, one step back. It makes me sick to think of all the death resulting from contraceptives and abortion, but there is hope for future generations, and we need to keep putting initiatives like the one in Mississipi on the ballot whenever and wherever we can.
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I'm very disappointed by the outcome, but I can't say it really surprises me. Nowadays, what people call "liberty" is really licentiousness. A lot of people, many Mississippians included, want to get off when and where and how they please and not be forced to bear the consequences of their actions.

I used to be a rabid pro-choicer, and looking back, it was because I was extremely selfish. I wasn't going to force my wife to have an abortion if it came to that, but I just didn't want to allow anyone else to dictate what we do with our bodies or children. Sadly, I was alone. Not by a long shot.

But, the pro-life movement has made some significant gains in the past few years. It looks like it'll be two steps forward, one step back. It makes me sick to think of all the death resulting from contraceptives and abortion, but there is hope for future generations, and we need to keep putting initiatives like the one in Mississipi on the ballot whenever and wherever we can.

EXCELLENT point where Liberty = Licentiousness ! As succinct and accurate as it gets. I do not believe Roe v Wade is good law and I think it needs to be defeated, throwing the issue of abortion back to the states. Let THEM regulate it. Or not. Or ban it. I figure if Ohio can decide it'll be a union outhouse, 'We the People" can make all kinds of decisions regarding our own self-determination.

I wonder how many of the obama-sphincters can tell the difference between FREEDOM and LIBERTY. I bet not many can....
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:24 AM   #10
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no surprise.

roe v. wade isn't being repealed.

abortion isn't going away.

it's a non-issue, ie republicans use it to get independents who are against abortion to vote republican when they don't believe in any of the other issues that candidate stands for.
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