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Old 09-27-2011, 05:13 AM   #1
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Default Easier to do business in China than USA

Wake up washington, regulations, taxes and the redistribution of wealth is killing us. It's time to scrape our tax code, eliminate the EPA, OSHA, Dept of Energy and Education.

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Hey, I don’t blame businesses for leaving the U.S. I would have when I was a General Contractor; even though we were a small company doing around 10 -15 million a year (small for most corporations) we paid through the nose in taxes.
This and other administrations do not have the ability to forecast the feel small business owners and corporations.
If we went to a flat tax this crap would go all away, and we could get rid of thousands of Gooberment dollars tied up in knot heads at the IRS.
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Of course it's easier to do business in China. There are no environmetal regs: Companies are allowed to pollute and poison the environment at will. The streets in many Chinese cities are filled with garbage because there are no landfills or scheduled garbage pickup.

Yep, let's go back to that.
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:48 AM   #4
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Of course it's easier to do business in China. There are no environmetal regs: Companies are allowed to pollute and poison the environment at will. The streets in many Chinese cities are filled with garbage because there are no landfills or scheduled garbage pickup.

Yep, let's go back to that.
Falcon not everyone does that, and most people are aware of the codes; we moved our business to the county and built a 5k Sq. Ft. building to do business in, we still put in an aerobic system for the septic, and ADA compliant restrooms even though we were 40 miles from the closest municipality and had no building restrictions there, but we know that someday it could become a residential community and we had obligations to keep the environment clean.

Yes there are rules, and they are there for a reason, China will pay the price for not taking care of their enviroment one day.
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Of course it's easier to do business in China. There are no environmetal regs: Companies are allowed to pollute and poison the environment at will. The streets in many Chinese cities are filled with garbage because there are no landfills or scheduled garbage pickup.

Yep, let's go back to that.
Horse hockey falcon. All the progress we've made throughout the years is a direct result of wealth and not government. As countries develop and generate more wealth, they can devote more to the peripheral things.
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That 'poison the homeland' garbage is the standard excuse to defend the status quo and watch the whole shootin' match do down the toilet. I would think that with less taxes and regulation we could AT LEAST become competitive with them.

I do not believe we will EVER see a flat tax unless the Tea Party becomes the majority party in our government. It seems that these folks are more interested in 'public service' as part of their jobs....the current tax code is a government slush fund. End it, and all this 'fairness' crap comes to fruition...but that's not what either party's 'graybeards' want..
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For many years i managed environmental remediation jobs in the US: Nothing is more highly regulated. Never had one problem with any federal or state regulatory agency. My sites were polluted with asbestos, poison war gas, raw explosives, petroleum, PCBs and lots of other stuff.

If you simply read and obey the regulations there will be no problems. The COE, BATFE, OSHA, EPA and all the other regulatory agencies write easy to read regulations. Problems come when those in industry who know better try to beat the system. Engineers are the worst offenders.

At one of my asbestos contaminated UXO sites in NJ i talked with the chief asbestos compliance officer for the state of NJ. He had just put a remediation company out of business and jailed its owners for dumping tons of friable asbestos in the pine barrens: As it should be.
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Yeah and if the world trade center only bade their steel covered with asbestos, it could be still standing today. If the space shuttle had the better protect that was banned by the EPA,it wouldn't have been damaged on take off. How about the 4 forest fire fighters who died in the fire, because the EPA wanted to protect fish instead? Or the farms going belly up for the same reasons?
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For many years i managed environmental remediation jobs in the US: Nothing is more highly regulated. Never had one problem with any federal or state regulatory agency. My sites were polluted with asbestos, poison war gas, raw explosives, petroleum, PCBs and lots of other stuff.

If you simply read and obey the regulations there will be no problems. The COE, BATFE, OSHA, EPA and all the other regulatory agencies write easy to read regulations. Problems come when those in industry who know better try to beat the system. Engineers are the worst offenders.

At one of my asbestos contaminated UXO sites in NJ i talked with the chief asbestos compliance officer for the state of NJ. He had just put a remediation company out of business and jailed its owners for dumping tons of friable asbestos in the pine barrens: As it should be.

breaking the law should bring down swift and terrible punishment, especially when the actions of people such as this , put large numbers of people at risk. I do not know the costs of compliance, but am willing to bet remediation is 10x the cost so it's only the fool who plays with this sort of thing. I think that other factors are more the issue in competing with China....child labor laws....labor laws in general...minimum salary requirements....health care...price fixing and manipulation....the list goes on.
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