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Old 09-25-2011, 05:21 AM   #1
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Imagine if the majority of the voting people in a Democratic Republic were poor ........ and each election they voted in officials who passed laws that redistributed wealth and basically Federally subsidized the "poorer" people. Those poor people - the majority of the voting populace - could literally turn upside down a country, changing it from into more of a Socialist system than a Democracy (or Democratic Republic)


couldn't they?
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:30 AM   #2
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Possible except after all those well meaning people get into congress they become corrupt and are influenced by power and go opposite from what their constituents want. They become slaves to the wealthy and are bought off by lobbyists.
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Imagine if the majority of the voting people in a Democratic Republic were poor ........ and each election they voted in officials who passed laws that redistributed wealth and basically Federally subsidized the "poorer" people. Those poor people - the majority of the voting populace - could literally turn upside down a country, changing it from into more of a Socialist system than a Democracy (or Democratic Republic)


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I think there are a couple of controls on that process though.

First of all, in order to get elected, you have to have campaign contributions and the "poorer" people aren't going to contrubute those funds. If you start redistributing too much wealth, your reelection funds dry up and you're out of office.

Next, the majority are actually, non-wealthy, working people who will be contributing to the wealth redistribution. These people will want to put limits on the redistribution of wealth because some of the money being redistributed will be coming from their paychecks.
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If by this you mean "the wealthy" lobby the government to create laws to protect them ("the wealthy"), why does that surprise you? If I was rich I would want to protect my money from the government/masses as well. Paying my "fair share" is one thing. Paying more so that democrats can use my money against me creating an ever larger dependency class that demands even more from me, well that is quite another thing.

And by-the-way lobbying the government to write a certain type of law is nothing new, unusual or necessarily bad. The NRA lobbies the government all the time on my behalf.
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If by this you mean "the wealthy" lobby the government to create laws to protect them ("the wealthy"), why does that surprise you? If I was rich I would want to protect my money from the government/masses as well. Paying my "fair share" is one thing. Paying more so that democrats can use my money against me creating an ever larger dependency class that demands even more from me, well that is quite another thing.

And by-the-way lobbying the government to write a certain type of law is nothing new, unusual or necessarily bad. The NRA lobbies the government all the time on my behalf.
I agree completely. Our elected officials should definitely be subject to influence. I love the idea that I can influence my representative in Congress. Unlike some countries, we get to vote on who it is who is being influenced. Granted, I don't always like the outcome, but there's no better way.
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Why imagine? We have that today as predicted in federalists paper #45. If both parts of the legislative branch were deleted by the same fashion, it would have no bounds (paraphrasing) its proven to be a true statement 200 years later. Senators today always claim to want to do the work of the people but they don't represent the people.
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That is correct, they are supposed to represent the states. They are also supposed to act as a sort of speed brake when the house gets a little to worked up...so to speak.
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Robert its absolutely disgusting the laws that are passed today that have such detrimental results for the states. When was the last time your heard a Senator say, "Don't pass this bill, it will chrush my state and yours"?

I almost asked when the last time I heard that but then Obamacare did have a few senators holding out for goodies. I'm so disgusted by that, I don't care to remember who all did that. I do remember the whore from LA was one of them.
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I didn't just couldn't remember who. Funny, he held out for more than the whore. I'm surprised the newpapers didn't spin this as an unequal pay issue.
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