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Old 08-12-2011, 09:06 AM   #1
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Default Lastnight RNC debate...

We're even worse off than I thought!!!

THOSE are our best, brightest and most hopeful???

Bachman must have been ridin the "Maxi-pad Express".
Pawlenty is still lookin for his easter eggs.
Paul needs to be put back into his straight jacket.
Santorum, are we sure it's not spelled Sanitarium?
Huntsman, Jim Baker called and he wants his style and hairdo back. (Does Huntsman's wife also put her makeup on with a trowel?)

Romney, OH MY GOD you are telling me that he WON that debate? I guess to "win" you have to give the most BOOSHEUT, polished turd, same old political smoke up our arses, plastic haired windbag style and answers. "Conservative" my azz, the guy ran THE most rediculous, liberal state east of CA. He's only "conservative" because his fellow statesmen are/were Kennedy, Kerry and Franks!!! I HATE this man and trust him about as much as I do Obongo himself. Yet "the great mormon" is our savior???

IMHO the only 2 up there with half a clue were Newt and Cain, BOTH of which aren't electable for a multitude of reasons. For Newt, chiefly it's because American doesn't have the sack to hear or live the truth! For Cain, the black population doesn't consider him "black enough".

DEAR LORD I hope Perry has something for us, because based on the misfits I saw lastnight... Obongo doesn't even need to remove his pictures from the walls of the Oval Office.
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Old 08-12-2011, 04:49 PM   #2
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I am hoping he will be the real deal too. We need someone to stand behind and all the rest are not making it.
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:02 AM   #3
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Perry wrote a letter to Obama telling him to send that stimulus money to Texas. Then Perry badmouthed the stimulas plan. Imagine that-a politician whos a hypocrit.
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:57 AM   #4
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I agree, the performances last night were bad all around. But while I disagree with Paul on Iran, I'm amazed at how many people don't put much value on the fact that he is by far the most trustworthy candidate in the race. Does that not count for anything anymore? I don't know about you all, but the idea of a leader that will say what he believes, won't gloss it over or try to pull a fast one on ya, and has consistantly walked his talk, gives me some REAL hope for change. My lifetime has seen nothing but BS artists for Presidents, our current being the worst. You aren't going to agree with everything he says, but you know you can trust him. In my opinion that alone should have him leading this current crop of crap.
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:37 PM   #5
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I agree, the performances last night were bad all around. But while I disagree with Paul on Iran, I'm amazed at how many people don't put much value on the fact that he is by far the most trustworthy candidate in the race. Does that not count for anything anymore? I don't know about you all, but the idea of a leader that will say what he believes, won't gloss it over or try to pull a fast one on ya, and has consistantly walked his talk, gives me some REAL hope for change. My lifetime has seen nothing but BS artists for Presidents, our current being the worst. You aren't going to agree with everything he says, but you know you can trust him. In my opinion that alone should have him leading this current crop of crap.
We went to his website and reviewed his positions on many issues. Much of what he says has very little substance, and really doesn't make sense. I'll grant you that he has great appeal to people who have a grudge against government. But we need more than that to get us out of this mess.

We're going out now, but I'm going to post our reactions to his positions tomorrow as long as we're talking about him.

However, if he should get the nomination, he'll get our vote because he's not O'Bama.
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:49 PM   #6
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Perry wrote a letter to Obama telling him to send that stimulus money to Texas. Then Perry badmouthed the stimulas plan. Imagine that-a politician whos a hypocrit.
You sure about that? I thought the "letter" was a request that Obama do something to help control the border. Perry turned down some stimulus money because there were too many federal "strings" attached.
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:09 AM   #7
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Pawlenty quit today.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:45 AM   #8
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Smile Ron Paul-Our impressions of his platform

Abortion: He believes that life begins at conception and so do we. He also opposes funding for Planned Parenthood, etc., and so do we. No disagreement here.

Obamacare: He's against it and so are we. He favors tax deductions/credits for medical expenses. We have no problem with that. He wants to limit medical malpractice lawsuits. We're in favor of that, but that's probably a state issue.

The Economy: He wants a balanced budget and no further increases to the debt limit. We like that. He also wants to end the income tax and other taxes. That's unrealistic. How would we fund the military, the interstate highway system, customs. the FBI, etc.? He also suggests ending the Federal Reserve. And with what would he replace it? He wants to "legalize sound money." What the heck does that mean?

National Defense: He wants to eliminate long, expensive, pointless wars. He wants to secure our borders. He proposes only sending troops into combat if there is a clearly defined purpose. This sounds good to us.

End the Fed: He wants to end the Federal Reserve system but has nothing in mind to replace it. He wants to "legalize sound money." We have no idea what he means by that. It's one of those things that makes you realize Ron Paul is not the guy.

Taxes: He wants to lower taxes which we think is a great idea. He also favors a lot of the tax credits which some on this forum view with disgust. We take advantage of some of those credits, but we could do without them. He also wants to eliminate income tax on tips. Mama and a couple of our friends would like this one. I might like this one too in case I lose my husband and have to go to work as a waitress.

Right to Work: He favors a national right to work law. The Supremes might go along with this under the Commerce clause. We have no problem with a right to work law.

Homeschooling: He favors tax credits for people who send their kids to non-public schools or home school. We're opposed to that. It might be to our benefit if we send the girls to a parochial school. But we're still opposed. The public school system was started based on the concept that educating children benefits the whole community. Everyone pays taxes to support the schools, even people who have never had children. You should not be exempt from school taxes if you choose to educate your kids some other way.

Immigration: He favors more border security and denial of welfare and other benefits to illegal aliens. We're in favor of that. Denial of benefits alone should reduce illegal immigration. He wants to end birth-right citizenship. We oppose that. If you are born here, you should have the right to citizenship. As an aside though, we would like to see an end to dual-citizenship. If you are or become a citizen of another country, you should not be enititle to U.S. citizenship. Make a choice.

Energy:

As President, Ron Paul will lead the fight to:
* "Remove restrictions on drilling, so companies can tap into the vast amount of oil we have here at home." Yes, we are in favor of this.

* "Repeal the federal tax on gasoline. Eliminating the federal gas tax would result in an 18 cents savings per gallon for American consumers." No, but this money should be earmarked for maintainance of the interstate highway system and bridges, not slipped over to NPR or Planned Parenthood.

* "Lift government roadblocks to the use of coal and nuclear power." We are absolutely in favor of this.

* "Eliminate the ineffective EPA. Polluters should answer directly to property owners in court for the damages they create – not to Washington." This idea has merit. The greenies often use the EPA to block growth and progress.

* "Make tax credits available for the purchase and production of alternative fuel technologies." Absolutely not. If alternative fuel technologies are worthwhile, someone will figure out how to make a profit off it. We don't need to subsidize it.

When I say "we" I am referring to my husband and me since we discuss these matters a lot.
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:47 AM   #9
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Read the Constitution. The Federal Reserve Act is unconstitutional. The Constitution defines legal tender.

You need to research the Federal Reserve to find out what it really is, and why Paul is so adamantly opposed to it. It is a private banking cartel, as is the IMF and the World Bank. I think Barto1 may have posted some good links. As they say the Federal Reserve is as "federal" as Federal Express.
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Old 08-15-2011, 06:00 AM   #10
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Read the Constitution. The Federal Reserve Act is unconstitutional. The Constitution defines legal tender.

You need to research the Federal Reserve to find out what it really is, and why Paul is so adamantly opposed to it. It is a private banking cartel, as is the IMF and the World Bank. I think Barto1 may have posted some good links. As they say the Federal Reserve is as "federal" as Federal Express.
I'm not able to find a definition of "legal tender" in the Constitution. I may be missing it. Where do you find it? I know the Congress has the authority to coin money and determine the value. The Federal Reserve doesn't print money of course, the Treasury, as authorized by Congress, not the Federal Reserve, does that.

Yes, the Federal Reserve is quasi independent. But it's governors are appointed by the prez and approved by Congress. It was thought to be a good thing to make it somewhat independent of both Congress and the administration. I agree with that.
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