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Old 08-10-2011, 10:58 AM   #1
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Say, we don't hear much about this subject, what with all the hue and cry about the debt ceiling and various obaminations being pushed on us. I recollect that the Republicans won big in state elections in 2010, and it is the state legislators that define the district layouts of the states. Has anyone in the world of political pundits pointed out the likely advantage redistricting is going to provide to Republicans in the 2012 election? This does not much effect senate races -- as senators run at large across the whole state. But this will impact house races. Further, the 2010 census may drive some shifting of electoral votes around the country. I don't know how to begin to speculate on what role that may play in the presidential election. Clearly the house of representatives may be influenced, however, by redistricting.

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Old 08-10-2011, 11:54 AM   #2
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I'll take whatever redistricting has to offer in the way of increased influence in the House of Representatives. We know the dems have gerrymandered for years, so now, we need to get back that foothold in the House. Hopefully, we can take the Senate next year....do you know how many seats we need for a repub majority ?
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I've mentioned this many times already in my posts. This will have a major impact on the elections. The only hold up will be if the Dems get court orders to hold up new maps til after elections.
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I've mentioned this many times already in my posts. This will have a major impact on the elections. The only hold up will be if the Dems get court orders to hold up new maps til after elections.
With republicans legally in power and with the right to redraw the districts, what standing do they have to hold it up ? Even 'judge Judy' could see the self-serving pukes are desperate to hold onto power that is no longer theirs to hold....
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:01 PM   #5
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Well, I guess something must go thru because the south has picked up seats from the north. However, remember it was a judge the drew up the districts in Texas before the Republicans finally corrected that wrong a few years back.
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Our redistricting is done and the governor has signed off on it. Michigan lost a seat so the map puts two Democrats in the same district.

I would expect the Democrats to take it to court. But we ELECT judges in this state and we have a conservative majority on the state Supreme Court.

I don't think the federal courts would be concerned. It doesn't adversely affect any minorities and looks pretty much how you would expect the party controlling the legislature to do it.
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What does the slip and fall honorable husband attorney say? Isn't districting a federal law issue even though these elections are state issues. I thought this all was decided on an equal protection clause at the federal level many years ago.

I may be wrong.
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What does the slip and fall honorable husband attorney say? Isn't districting a federal law issue even though these elections are state issues. I thought this all was decided on an equal protection clause at the federal level many years ago.

I may be wrong.
It can be a federal issue. But the loss of the Democrat seat is not in a district where minorities are a substantial segment of the population. I think they were careful about that. And both Democrats stuck in the same district are white. In the state courts, the question would be procedural issues.

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Old 08-11-2011, 05:41 AM   #9
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do you know how many seats we need for a repub majority ?
I think the Republicans have 47 seats in the Senate. They need to hold the seats they have that are up for election . . . and they need to pick up 4 additional seats to have a small majority. It would be nice if they picked up 13 seats which would give them a "super majority" -- a veto proof majority. As I understand it, there are many more encumbent democrat senators standing for election in 2012 than encumbent republican senators standing for election. This is a golden opportunity for republicans to gain control of the senate, retain control of the house, and hopefully win the presidency. There is reason to hope we can unwind all the damage Obama and the Democrats have done since January 2009 . . . except we can't undo the profligate spending that has been done.

People dwell on the Presidency. The president has important powers, but so does the senate. The senate, for example, can and does block supreme court appointments made by the president. Also, the senate is involved in approving treaties. If you want to talk about ways that we can be royally screwed by our government, think about what damage can be done by a US supreme court dominated by liberals -- and we are very close to that now (most key cases recently have been decided by 4-5 or 5-4 decisions) -- think about a US senate approving treaties that are damaging to our interests and soveignty, such as the UN treaty on small arms.

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