Actually that statement would not be 100% true since AARP actually supported and still support this administration whether their members realize it or not. There are more like 70 million recipients that may not receive their checks. What I have been trying to find out is if these scare tactics hold water because I have family members that are very concerned especially those that are battling life threatening health issues that should not have to be worrying about their check.
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These threats don't hold any water at all.
To allow them to not be paid would be suicide for Obama and company.
It would be telling AMERICA in no uncertain terms that they don't care for you at all, it would be them, telling the truth.
These threats don't hold any water at all.
To allow them to not be paid would be suicide for Obama and company.
It would be telling AMERICA in no uncertain terms that they don't care for you at all, it would be them, telling the truth.
Thanks sconnyhunter,
I agree but I need some real hard facts to put their minds at ease even though some are die hard supporters. For some of those family members I hope they actually begin to see the error of believing in the MSM and their chosen one.
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Unfortunately if the SS payments stop they will also stop for military payments which would be a travesty especially since many of our troops are in harms way. I think a good first step to overcome this stalemate is to stop payments to our inept Congressmen and cut out their golden parachute retirements. The reality is that political bickering is standing in the way of a quick compromise which would eliminate having our bond rating reduced. Both sides are playing with fire and the reason is simply a power struggle with an eye on 2012 elections. Our government has become one huge quagmire and one reason is partisan politics. Most of those clowns hold allegiance to their party rather than their constituents. In our case we have 3 congressmen who need to go since all they do is add to the pile of dung. Patrick Leahy (D) has been there for decades now and has established himself as a cornerstone of gridlock. Socialist or should I say communist Bernie Sanders (I) is and has always been an embarrassment to our proud state. Then we have Peter Welch (D) who is on his 2nd term and is desperately trying to stay in office to get qualified for the big retirement. He is trying to become another Leahy but lacks the brain matter to get there. I would love to see a ground swell of voter support to throw them all out on their collective asses. If the people don’t have the stones to do it then initiate term limits so this doesn’t happen again.
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I think a good first step to overcome this stalemate is to stop payments to our inept Congressmen and cut out their golden parachute retirements.
Exactly. No mention of cutting Congressional pay, or services, or cutting back on his and his family's numerous vacations that "require" hundreds of staff members (and friends and family) to travel with them, etc. etc. etc.
Of course he won't let SS payments be stopped. That would hit his base right between the eyes. I hope the threat backfires on him though, in a big way.
What's the point in having a "debt ceiling" if, every time it's reached, they just raise it? Has he not known he was putting the country further and further in debt while throwing his parties, going on his vacations, and tossing out countless dollars on so-called worthless "stimulus"?
Chad
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The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
Our government has become one huge quagmire and one reason is partisan politics. .
Just my opinion, but I don't think our problem is partisan politics. Partisan politics is what differentiates us from the Soviet and Chinese systems. I think our problem is that our politics are not partisan enough.
The Republican majority needs to stop compromising and put a stop to the steady march towands Marxism promoted by the Liberal Democrats, urged on by the Socialist financed media.
Okay, I guess some people will think I'm ready for a tinfoil hat, but I really think it's time to stop this process and start reversing it. If we don't, we're not going to be able to hand off a free country to our descendants. And "compromise" is not going to result in a stop.
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If the debt ceiling is not raised and the government is unable to borrow money, we will likely face a situation in which government revenues, mainly from taxes, will be less than the amount of money needed to maintain government expenditures at current levels and meet our obligations to repay principal and interest on U.S. Government bonds as they come due.
We then have to make a decision as to what payments are made and which are not out since there will not be sufficient Government revenues to meet all obligations. Government bonds are backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. Government and failure to make even one interest or principal repayment would destroy the creditworthiness of the United States for all time. We could ask the two biggest holders of U.S. Government securities, ***an and China not to press their claims but the outcome would be uncertain. China is likely to be distrustful of U.S. intentions and as sympathetic as ***an might be to our plight, the need to finance rebuilding in the wake of the major earthquake in March might tie their hands. I am sure one reason ***an accumulated large amounts of securities was because they knew, given the geology of ***an, it was only a matter of time before they were going to have to fall back on their savings for major rebuilding.
Legally, repayment of obligations arising from U.S. Treasury bonds owed to foreign governments probably have priority over any other government expenditures, including Social Security payments to senior citizens, pensions for retired U.S. military and civil service personnel and government contractors.
The House Republicans are playing a very dangerous game here calculating that holding the debt ceiling hostage will give them enough leverage to obtain everything they want without having to make a single concession. If the President decides that he can not and will not submit to this type of blackmail, The President will pay a price for the consequences but I believe the Republicans will pay an even steeper price, likely steeper than the one they paid when they shut down the Government in 1995.
If the debt ceiling is not raised and the government is unable to borrow money, we will likely face a situation in which government revenues, mainly from taxes, will be less than the amount of money needed to maintain government expenditures at current levels and meet our obligations to repay principal and interest on U.S. Government bonds as they come due.
We then have to make a decision as to what payments are made and which are not out since there will not be sufficient Government revenues to meet all obligations. Government bonds are backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. Government and failure to make even one interest or principal repayment would destroy the creditworthiness of the United States for all time. We could ask the two biggest holders of U.S. Government securities, ***an and China not to press their claims but the outcome would be uncertain. China is likely to be distrustful of U.S. intentions and as sympathetic as ***an might be to our plight, the need to finance rebuilding in the wake of the major earthquake in March might tie their hands. I am sure one reason ***an accumulated large amounts of securities was because they knew, given the geology of ***an, it was only a matter of time before they were going to have to fall back on their savings for major rebuilding.
Legally, repayment of obligations arising from U.S. Treasury bonds owed to foreign governments probably have priority over any other government expenditures, including Social Security payments to senior citizens, pensions for retired U.S. military and civil service personnel and government contractors.
The House Republicans are playing a very dangerous game here calculating that holding the debt ceiling hostage will give them enough leverage to obtain everything they want without having to make a single concession. If the President decides that he can not and will not submit to this type of blackmail, The President will pay a price for the consequences but I believe the Republicans will pay an even steeper price, likely steeper than the one they paid when they shut down the Government in 1995.
Why is it just the Republicans playing a dangerous game? Why are you just accusing the Republicans of submitting Obama to blackmail.
Why aren't you accusing Obama and the Democrats of blackmailing the Republicans?
The solution here is quite simple, childishly simple. Obama and the Democrats do the responsible, grown-up thing and agree to Republican demands to cut spending and the problem goes away.
If the taxpayers want to go back to Liberal Democrat, drunkard type spending, they can elect a re-elect Obama and a Liberal Democrat majority and they can go back to destroying our country.
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Social Security Payments Delayed?
