Elite Ammunition says that the BATFE has told the company to stop selling their Trident bullets in certain calibers. Elite claims that the BATFE has re-classified some rifle calibers as handgun ammo.
This happened years ago when the ChiCom steel core 7.62x39 ammo was banned from import: Someone chambered a handgun in that caliber.
The ban affects handgun ammo only. It bans bullets made completely from beryllium copper, bronze, tungsten, steel, iron, or alloys of these materials.
Yep, its's another cop killer bullet scare. Obama is pandering to his anti-gun base. It's also an attempt to get folks minds off the administrations criminal element that peddled guns into Mexico.
In response to an illustrious member's repeated calls to "show me the laws," on prior occasions, I posted the following:
Cut and pastes from prior posts...
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by gun870guy ... has not gone after guns, has pretty much not given a crap about liberal gun control policy... and yet everyone hates this guy...
Are you paying attention? Have you seen who he has appointed to the Supreme Court? Do you know what happens if he gets to replace one of the more "conservative" justices? Have you heard the statements from his staff and DOJ about doing things with gun laws that bypass Congress?
Quote:
“As the president said, we should focus on sound, effective steps that will keep guns out of the hands of the criminals, fugitives, people with serious mental illness, and others who have no business possessing a gun and who are prohibited by laws on the books from owning a gun,” Justice Department spokesman Matthew Miller said. “We will be meeting with stakeholders on all sides of the issue to discuss how we can find sensible, intelligent ways to make the country safer.”
So, once you get past the felons and the mentally ill, who gets to decide who those "others" are who "have no business possessing a gun"?
Well, let's explore a bit further. There's this:
Quote:
Obama Looking For Ways Around Congress on Gun Policy
First Posted: 03/15/11 04:33 PM Updated: 03/15/11 04:33 PM
With Reporting By Lucia Graves
WASHINGTON -- Faced with a Congress hostile to even slight restrictions of Second Amendment rights, the Obama administration is exploring potential changes to gun laws that can be secured strictly through executive action, administration officials say.
Apparently, he thinks HE is the one who gets to decide. Him, and that ASSCLOWN, Cass Sunstein, an anti-gun, anti-hunting extremist. Appointing that idiot to a position of power ought to be reason for impeachment.
It boggles the mind that any sane person could vote for someone like this. The Supreme Court's support of the 2nd Amendment dangles by a single vote, and several of the justices with the correct view of the 2nd Amendment as an individual right are approaching retirement... We know Obama's agenda. We know what type of people he will appoint to the high Court. And, we know what will happen to the 2nd Amendment if he gets re-elected. The use of the term might be tinged with hyperbole, but, I consider ANYONE who votes for him this time around to be a traitor to those who support the 2nd Amendment.
Quote:
I didn't say Obama was stupid. He appears to be taking a two-pronged attack. First, long term, he knows that he can do a lot more damage to the 2nd Amendment via the idiots he appoints to the Supreme Court. All he needs is one conservative resignation and the 2nd is done. He's already appointed two antis. Another Supreme Court appointment, and he'll influence 2nd Amendment interpretation for the next 30-40 years. He can do far more damage that way than via legislation that can be changed by Congress every couple of years.
Short term, "administration officials" say they are exploring changes to gun laws that can be secured strictly through executive action. Stuff that doesn't get nearly as much notice as if he was trying to push an AR ban through Congress.
In response, I was told this:
Quote:
That sounds paranoid.
No anti-gun legislation submitted or enacted, huh?
So, I was called "paranoid." Now, it appears that what I posted was precisely true. Obama IS, in fact, imposing restrictions affecting our 2nd Amendment rights based on solely on executive action.
I'll await an apology, though I won't be holding my breath...
In the meantime, I'll have to be satisfied with a heartfelt and smug "I told you so..."
Last edited by ipscshooter; 07-12-2011 at 10:12 AM.
No no no, There is no legislation. No apology needed. He just decided to do this on his own with out going through hassle of a passing any bill(s).
__________________
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency........... Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."
This happened years ago when the ChiCom steel core 7.62x39 ammo was banned from import: Someone chambered a handgun in that caliber.
I remember that- 93 i think it was( have read some about clintoons executive order involved , been awhile though( diffent pc),& hard to find info on it for me)- it also banned a whole lot of guns from import if im not mistaken.
Quote:
It's also an attempt to get folks minds off the administrations criminal element that peddled guns into Mexico.
1+ i think ya maybe right-( that ones a slimy deal)
....
Nothing wrong with being a little paranoid imo.
__________________
Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.-- Ovid (43 B.C.-A.D. 18)
Things ain't what they used to be and probably never was. ~Will Rogers
Tomorrow hopes we have learned something from yesterday.
"Shouldn't someone tag Mr. Kennedy's 'bold new imaginative program' with its proper age?" "Under the tousled boyish haircut it is still old Karl Marx—first launched a century ago.
There is nothing new in the idea of a government being Big Brother to us all. R.Reagan-1960
Oh oh...now you did it. I remember a thread a couple of years ago in which members actually questioned the utility of the NRA. To me, that was the height of ignorance because as far as 'gun rights' goes, the NRA is the 'only game in town'. Sure there's Neal Knox's group and I'm sure there are a few others out there...but none with the clout of NRA.
Basically, the way I see it, if it were not for NRA, U.S. gun rights would today be non-existent.
WE MUST STOP THE FLOW OF WEAPONS TO MEXICO!!! WE MUST GRANT THE POLICE THE AUTHORITY TO REVIEW ALL TRANSACTIONS TO ENSURE THAT U.S. GUNS ARE NOT KILLING INNOCENT MEXICAN PEASANTS!!!! WE, THE POLITICIANS, KNOW WHAT IS BEST!!!! WE WILL SOLVE THIS PROBLEM!!! TRUST US!!!!
Oh.... wait.... It's the police and the politicians doing the smuggling...
Quote:
...federal authorities arrested Police Chief Angelo Vega, Mayor Eddie Espinoza, Village Trustee Blas Gutierrez and nine other residents for conspiring to smuggle hundreds of guns to drug cartels over the border in March...
This may be a bad post. i can find nothing on the web to substantiate the allegation that those bullets have been banned except the link to Elite ammo: Nothing else. There's nothing on the BATFE website. These guys threw down the BS flag:
Obama Bans Some Bullets
