"Given those circumstances, two European cities going up against an Asian country was like a Democrat challenging Barack Obama in next year's primaries. Not even the IOC could screw up this decision. Going to Pyeongchang was the easy call."
he is saying there isnt any way bamy will make it again?
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C'mon . . . if a Democrat challenges Obama in the primaries, Rahm Immanuel will send some thugs from Chicago to settle the score, and Nancy Pelosi will gnaw his/her foot off.
I guess it would be thought that this would be political suicide for the Democrat challenger. First, where would they get champaign contributions? Second, having failed to oust the annointed one, what place would be left for them in the Democratic party? No, I think the Democrats are stuck with Obama in 2012, and it ain't gonna be pretty. Obama has nothing to run on. Hope isn't going to cut it. Whatever crap he wants to assert hypothetically about his Republican opponent, it isn't likely to be worse than the ACTUALITY the Republican is going to assert against Obama. Obama has provided a rich banquet laid out on tables groaning under the weight of the rich attack information.
Alastian: normally I would agree with everything you say, BUT....
1. Obama is supported by an overwhelming majority of blacks in this country.
2. Unions and democrat voters will vote for him.
3. The media will cover for him and attack the republican.
4. The media does not like a blow-out it isn't good for ratings. They will do what they can to tighten up the race and make it a "neck-and-neck" squeaker right down to the finish.
Unfortunately as in '08 it may be enough to put him over the top. Its B.S. but no one said life was fair.
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There's no doubt there is no end to Barry's failures and messes. Yet, he's still approved by 46% of the unwashed, idiot masses out there. What a shame we have become a 'short bus' nation.....
Generally, of course, your're right. I will put my comments in red below:
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Alastian: normally I would agree with everything you say, BUT....
1. Obama is supported by an overwhelming majority of blacks in this country. He garnered virtually all of them....just like every other democrat they can scrape off the curb. It was not the blacks who put him in...it was the independents.
2. Unions and democrat voters will vote for him. They always vote democrat...this is not news...
3. The media will cover for him and attack the republican. count on it, just like in 2008.
4. The media does not like a blow-out it isn't good for ratings. They will do what they can to tighten up the race and make it a "neck-and-neck" squeaker right down to the finish. with all the zero-income families out there, and with all those college graduates going from commencement to student loan default for lack of a job...I'm going to say a lot of the racist hysteria that got this idiot elected in the first place has beeen quenched. A lot of people....blacks, union members and independents....if they do not vote Republican, they will stay home. Good.
Unfortunately as in '08 it may be enough to put him over the top. Its B.S. but no one said life was fair.
the election hinges on the independents. As they go, so goes the election. I think he's lost enough of them to retire in 2012.
Alastian: normally I would agree with everything you say, BUT....
1. Obama is supported by an overwhelming majority of blacks in this country.
2. Unions and democrat voters will vote for him.
3. The media will cover for him and attack the republican.
4. The media does not like a blow-out it isn't good for ratings. They will do what they can to tighten up the race and make it a "neck-and-neck" squeaker right down to the finish.
Unfortunately as in '08 it may be enough to put him over the top. Its B.S. but no one said life was fair.
These are good points. In my view, in any election there are only maybe 20% to 30% of the votes in play. Some large block of voters are hard cord Democratic voters and will ALWAYS vote for the democrat -- say 30% of the voters; some large block of voters are hard core Republican voters and will ALWAYS vote for the republican -- say 30% of the voters. This means that elections are decided by those who are independents or "undecided" voters. These people rarely make their minds up until fairly late in the game -- say after the last political convention. Thus, the current polls showing where Obama is in the polls is meaningless.
Yes, the mainstream news media will propagandize for Obama. However, the political ads are going to be outside the control of the mainstream news media, and they are going to hurt Obama, bad. I remember the political ad just last week when Obama was in Pennsylvania for some political fund raiser. It focused on Obama visiting some plant in Pennsylvania -- a steel plant maybe? -- and promoting his programs, and then the current state of this plant being shut-down. It very effectively delivers the message that the solutions promised by Obama failed AND it hurt real people in their backyard. That is a powerful ad. There are going to be a LOT of those kind of commercials come fall 2012. I happen to be optimistic. I believe that those ads are going to be seen by the independent, undecided voters -- the only voters whose votes are in play (my vote is already destined to be cast for a Republican with a heartbeat, come what may) -- and notwithstanding the droning propaganda coming from the mainstream media, those ads are going to be telling and successful.
Part of the problem the mainstream media is going to have this time is that their promotion and bias for Obama has been noticed. They are going to see the discrepancy between what the media hypes and what has happened. Economy doing great? Not hardly, no matter what NBC, ABC, CBS tries to say to the contrary. Probably the only places the economy is doing good is in places that sure 'nuff ain't gonna vote for Obama! Like Texas.
Does it have to turn out well? No. I could be wrong. There could be way too many stupid people out there who don't learn from experience and who don't bother to form their own judgments.
First off, Obama announcing and in campaigning mode claiming he will raise 1 billion isn't to scare republicans. It's to put any Dems on notice, don't even think about it.
Trust me, there are severe fissures in the democrat party right now and among even the most loyal unions in this country. They have seen nothing working right now and no end in sight. Even this borrowing limit isnt going well. Seriously, corporate jets, loop holes? List how they have changed there language because their base isn't even buying it. Some how business expenditures are now subsidies in this country?
This weekend I got to poke fun with my most staunchest Democrat, she's even a teacher and in the union. She was speechless when it cam to Obama other than trying to throw Bush put there and Bachman. My only regret when she asked about Bachman was not asking the right question. Hmmm, why would the mother of 24 foster children scare you?
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I kind of agree with the 30-30-40 rough proportions. Obama will lose enough of the independents to be retired. Lack of enthusiasm will result in a lot of 'non participation' by all the other troglodytes who fainted, saw visions of Jehova's second coming, screamed, cried and otherwise convulsed. They did not get the payoff they expected and now see him for the scoundrel and charlatan he is. I don't mean to suggest it'll be a blowout...far from it...but enough will stay home and 'defect' to get a republican in there.
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I kind of agree with the 30-30-40 rough proportions. Obama will lose enough of the independents to be retired. Lack of enthusiasm will result in a lot of 'non participation' by all the other troglodytes who fainted, saw visions of Jehova's second coming, screamed, cried and otherwise convulsed. They did not get the payoff they expected and now see him for the scoundrel and charlatan he is. I don't mean to suggest it'll be a blowout...far from it...but enough will stay home and 'defect' to get a republican in there.
I think the keg parties will take a toll on Obama's college idiots. The ones who voted for him the first time have woke up to the reality of no job. Living in Mom and Dads basement is not all that cool. And with out the "cool" effect of a new , first black candiate, todays college kids will simply stay home. Most of the college kids I have tutored have expressed a discontent for Obama. Much different than what I saw in 08. In 08, the kids i tutored were all caught up in the glits and glam of Obama, fed by the medias bashing of Bush.
A good keg party, and or hangover will take care of the college vote this time around.
With that said, i have learned never to underestimate the stupidity of the unwashed idiots.
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