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Old 07-02-2011, 03:25 AM   #1
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Cool 6th Circuit rules that not discriminating is unconstitutional

Nope that's not a typo. They said it's unconstitutional to NOT discriminate.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/a...text|FRONTPAGE

This is fairly amusing stuff these judges produce.
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Old 07-02-2011, 04:58 AM   #2
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I've always considered affirmative action reverse discrimination. In many of the trades based fields it has caused a lot of problems where companies have been forced to hire and/or promote people who were not nearly as qualified as their non-minority counterparts.

This has been especially hard on companies in my region where there are no minority applicants for some jobs. When that has happened, then some of the companies have been fined/sued for hiring the most qualified applicant even though they didn't have any minority/female applicants.

Hiring, or approving applications for secondary education, should be based upon qualifications and not anything else.

Affirmative action is one of the reasons police departments out east have had to dumb down their promotional exams. The minority applicants, basically black and hispanic officers, couldn't pass the exams to move ahead. So, instead of putting a program in place for those who need extra help to move ahead, or forbid the thought, they work harder on their own time, the tests were dumbed down so the unworthy could move into jobs they should not have.

Even the police unions were against that ruling. They did not like the message the change would send to the communities they are trying to protect.
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:45 AM   #3
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Gotta make it easier for folks who are too stupid to make it on their own merit...
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Old 07-02-2011, 01:46 PM   #4
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It just perpetuates the problem and definitely doesn't fix it.
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Old 07-03-2011, 03:16 AM   #5
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The fact is, is that such programs as 'Head Start' will actively and with government approval discriminate against qualified people. THat is, in and of itself, discriminatory.
It's interesting to note this is purely a democrat cesspool of racist clownery, initiated under the Johnson admin as part of his failed "War on Poverty", amended in 1981 during the Carter administration, and under the George W. Bush admin, the democrat majority in both houses of congress re-authorized it. It is well known that libs are racists...except that the libs don't even know it as their racism is endemic and entrenched in their philosophy....
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Old 07-03-2011, 05:08 AM   #6
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Considering that the people before any affirmative action firmly believed the constitution declare discrimination legal, this court has precedent.

That is just what this court said although it didn't say it that way probably not wanting to sound as insulting as it is.

When one person abuses another government is born as the abuse grows so does government. Government is not the answer nor the cause of the problem. Never giving it a reason is the answer.

The sins of the father will be visited on the children to the third and fourth generation, and people think the bible is... whatever they think. The pendulum of freedom was push far away from the oppressed, it has swung back way past center in favor of the oppressed, always does. Unfortunately the oppressed are to uneducated to know what to do with it and it ends up oppressing them again.
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:05 AM   #7
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I get tired of hearing about "the cumulative effects of historical discrimination." The only appropriate basis for discrimination should be on grade point average.

Apparently Orientals are admitted to universities in California way out of proportion to their presence in the population. This annoys even some Caucasians. Why? If you want to go to college, you study in grade school, middle school, and high school. Then you get in. It shouldn't matter what race you are.

So your grandparents suffered discrimination. I wish that hadn't happened. I wish my great-grandparents hadn't been interned during WWII. But how does that affect our ability to study in school?
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:28 PM   #8
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I get tired of hearing about "the cumulative effects of historical discrimination." The only appropriate basis for discrimination should be on grade point average.

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True but that is not the way it was for years and years. As soon as the shoe became on the other foot people cried foul. Too little too late, obviously and the law says so. The law now made up of the oppressed.

What goes around comes around, maybe that's better understood.
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Old 07-03-2011, 02:59 PM   #9
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True but that is not the way it was for years and years. As soon as the shoe became on the other foot people cried foul. Too little too late, obviously and the law says so. The law now made up of the oppressed.

What goes around comes around, maybe that's better understood.
You/ve just posted complete nonsense. So my great-grandparents were interned in WWII and had to start over after the war. How does that affect my ability to study, get admitted to college, and get a scholarship.

I get really sick of all this "past discrimination" garbage.
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I get tired of hearing about "the cumulative effects of historical discrimination." The only appropriate basis for discrimination should be on grade point average.

Apparently Orientals are admitted to universities in California way out of proportion to their presence in the population. This annoys even some Caucasians. Why? If you want to go to college, you study in grade school, middle school, and high school. Then you get in. It shouldn't matter what race you are.

So your grandparents suffered discrimination. I wish that hadn't happened. I wish my great-grandparents hadn't been interned during WWII. But how does that affect our ability to study in school?
Very good post. Did you get the book Black Rednecks and White Liberals? That is the solution and has proven it does work for many generations from all over the world. Putting set asides and special exemptions rewards laziness. In the words of Clareance Thomas' Grandfather getting him to study, it don't come out unless it goes in first.
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