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Old 06-16-2011, 08:24 AM   #1
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Default Total Fish Ban proposed

For California that is.

The ban sounds PETA inspired in how they are going after puppy millers by stopping the sale of fish. Apparently all places that sell fish sell puppy mill puppies.

The stupidity of this just astounds me. At least banning exotic species of fish that can survive in a given state is one thing, but for the reason given here...
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Old 06-16-2011, 11:01 AM   #2
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I used to feed goldfish to my turtles but that was in New York City. Maybe they should be banned there as well.

Why don't they just cut to the chase and outlaw the making of money in California while they are at it?
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Old 06-16-2011, 12:59 PM   #3
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This is in San Francisco only, not all or even the rest of California. Here's a SF Chronicle link for those interested in more details.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BA661JTO52.DTL
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Old 06-16-2011, 02:05 PM   #4
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No matter how you look at it, the idea still makes no sense. What's next if this goes into effect, no more live bait sold and/or fresh fish at the fish markets?
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I think they should ban Oxygen in California, as it is a destructive gas which oxidizes all sorts of things into useless hulks. THat'll quiet the morons down a bit....
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:13 AM   #6
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In celebration of fish I plan on grilling some haddock tonight that I caught this spring in the Atlantic. Mrs CI found a new recipe and we are going to try it out. It will go well with the white wine I bought last night.
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I think they should ban Oxygen in California, as it is a destructive gas which oxidizes all sorts of things into useless hulks. THat'll quiet the morons down a bit....

I agree 100%, talk about proving that California is the land of Fruits and Nutz! There ain’t enough money in the world to make me live in that place, I hate to say it but I have to theaters in that state, I dread making a visit there, normally I just fly in and out the same day.
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Old 06-19-2011, 01:05 AM   #8
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I remember working the 'head boats' out of Sheepshead Bay in Brooklyn back in the 70's, 80's and 90's. The sheer ecstasy of pulling fish from the NY Bight was indescribable, as was the fresh fish enjoyed every time it was brought home. There was no waste of 'fish flesh' which was considered precious. As time went on, NMFS (the regulating body) became less concerned with sporting fishermen's needs and more concerned with commercial interests...to the point where sport fishermen were not represented. We started having to fish behind 'draggers' (you don't desolation until you've fished alongside these theives...might as well cast your Rapalas onto the highway) and had summers destroyed by experimental 'pair trawling' techniques which removed an entire summer's worth of bluefish in just a couple of trawls... Now it seems the commercial guys (no more mom & pop operations anymore, they are all just a few large corporate operations) are squabbling over whatever's left after the 'bum's rush' which left flounder, fluke, porgy, whiting, striped bass, weakfish, codfish and pollack, blackfish and seabass all in a state where it's too expensive to fish for a species there are too few to catch. Personally, I'd see all commercial operations designed to bring wild fish to market ended....and would happily see commercial draggers, setliners, longliners, trawlers and pair-trawlers torpedoed. They have outlived their 'right' to practice their trade which is outdated like the old 'smithie'. We now eat farm-raised trout, salmon, tilapia, catfish, and a host of other species....let 'em become farmers.
I have seen where the harvest of 'non saleable' species (sea robins, hackleheads, skate, menhaden, etc.) have been permitted...these are fish that other fish eat...and the catch is ground up either for fertilizer or pet food. When these are gone, other fish populations move out. The place becomes a submerged desert. I support anything that bans
COMMERCIAL fishing. IN the case of San Francisco, I would ban fish, meat, vegetables, water and oxygen....the dogs should be big, mean, hungry and ticked off. I have no love for idiots, and it seems San Francisco is 'idiot heaven'. Pardon my Rant....did not intend to hijack a 'puppy mill' story and the 'idiot's eye view' of the solution for it.....
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In celebration of fish I plan on grilling some haddock tonight that I caught this spring in the Atlantic. Mrs CI found a new recipe and we are going to try it out. It will go well with the white wine I bought last night.
Never caught Haddock....caught hake and a host of other species tho'...planning a summertime trip to Montauk L.I. this summer if I can find a 'trip' that fits my preferences. Seems hardly worthy of the 350 mile drive (round trip) if I can only catch a limit 1 or 2 fish on the new 'saltwater license' they issue in NY nowadays I hear....that for a $100 fare to get on the boat....
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I fished out of Portsmouth NH on a 6 pack charter and it cost me about $145 per day. No saltwater license needed if you go out with a licensed operator. We had a 40 foot boat and went out about 25 miles. We caught cod and haddock non stop for 2 days. All 6 of us brought home a cooler each of fresh filleted fish all legally caught by hook and line. We didn’t catch any monsters but the numbers were good and we live released more than we kept. the haddock last night was great. We marinated it in a recipe my wife found on the internet and then after grilling we poured the rest of the marinade (after boiling and thickening) over the haddock. It was delicious.
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