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Old 06-07-2011, 06:49 PM   #1
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Default Goshen College bans playing Nation Athem at sporting events

Idiots. I believe "We The People"need to go after their funding source. There needs to be a drive to dry up their funds.

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Old 06-08-2011, 05:47 AM   #2
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You know what would dry up their funds? People choosing not to go there.

Why would you be so hell-bent on "going after" their funding sources, MF? Is that what conservatism means to you...trying to abridge a private institution's right to free speech (which includes NOT speaking something that they have determined conflicts with their core values)? I can say whatever I want, but I can't say whatever I want in my office. If I dont' like it, I can quite my job! The students don't have to go there, the parents don't have to send them. This is a new "official policy," but it is nothing new to the school:

"Goshen College had not played the Star-Spangled Banner prior to sporting events, since beginning to participate in intercollegiate athletics in 1957, although it was never officially banned from campus."

I personally would not agree with their decision if I had a stake in that institution, but since I don't, my opinion doesn't matter. They are saying that war and their religious beliefs are in conflict with one another. And I have no problem with that.

I guess you want to eliminate all scholarships for that school that directly or indirectly, in full or part, come from public funding. That's the root of freedom right there.
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Follow the money. "Cutting off their funding" is to reach out to alumni and benefactors as well as informing potential matriculations and allowing them to make an informed decision about their education. I agree that the institution is free to do what it wants...but so is everyone else. And where does it say that 'freedom' is without consequences ? You hit on it when you stated there are things you can say, but not at work. Same here. Conservatism has nothing to do with it...it's how a university is funded, and it's part of the 'consequences' of 'speaking your mind'. Going after the funding means nothing more than informing the benefactors of the newly-legislated standards and asking them if they agree with it enough to continue writing checks to these scumbags. It's all choice and it's all liberty...and THAT"S what the conservative mindset is all about.

None of this will happen, however.
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I'm sure the alumni association and other university benefactors have great interest in knowing what the university is up to. And this decision ain't exactly a secret; it's on the front page of their site. I don't think that MF is going to break any earth-shattering news over their heads.

And they are scumbags because they see war as incompatible with the example laid before them in the New Testament? Sounds like you'd probably have it out for Christians if they actually lived the way Jesus actually lived.
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This is still a free country. They can burn a flag before every sporting event if they want.

I would say they are doing the students a disservice, but the students seem to largely support the decision. They may find their decisions unwise when they begin trying to enter the workforce.
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I couldn't agree with you more. I think everybody has the freedom to do exactly what the federal government tells them to do. Anybody not endulging in this "freedom", should be made to face the consequences, preferably water-boarding.
Your comments aren't really relevant HD. No-one is talking about doing what the gooberment says.



Good post, NT.
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Old 06-08-2011, 04:18 PM   #7
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Hence NT, funding comes in a lot of ways. Alumni and sponsors are a great start.
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I'm sure the alumni association and other university benefactors have great interest in knowing what the university is up to. And this decision ain't exactly a secret; it's on the front page of their site. I don't think that MF is going to break any earth-shattering news over their heads.

And they are scumbags because they see war as incompatible with the example laid before them in the New Testament? Sounds like you'd probably have it out for Christians if they actually lived the way Jesus actually lived.
You presume the benefactors read everything they get as alumni,
or that they interact with the university via the web. That's a presumption on your part that is not necessarily accurate. Many will just write the check when asked. "EDUCATED" does not necessarily equal "INTELLIGENT".

Even the bible acknowledges there is a 'time' to kill. So I do not believe that they oppose zenophobia based on religious grounds, they do so because they are anti-american liberal scumbags and deserve to be starved of the funds that fuel their arrogance. This is why they have banned the National Anthem. They have a right, but there are consequences.
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This is still a free country. They can burn a flag before every sporting event if they want.

I would say they are doing the students a disservice, but the students seem to largely support the decision. They may find their decisions unwise when they begin trying to enter the workforce.
I do not pretend to know the atmosphere or culture of this place.
I will state with authority that educators will indoctrinate by example.
So, if these kids are polluted and leftist crap, they will spit it back out for all to here, as if to show they've been educated and this is how educated people think. Not all of 'em, mind you, but the majority will do exactly that. SO...if you can influence and limit the amount of 'commie crap' these kids are spoon fed, they might actuallythink for themselves and put up a cogent argument against the school's scumbaggery.

HD...once again you do not disappoint...in your sick and twisted world, stupidity reigns supreme and there is no utterance considered too moronic as to be considered prior to presentation. Keep up the good work, genius.
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