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Old 06-01-2011, 05:27 AM   #1
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Latest Target of Pakistani Radicals: Ban the Bible
Wednesday, June 01, 2011
By Patrick Goodenough
Pakistani lawyers burn a U.S. flag during a protest against plans to burn copies of the Quran, in Multan, Pakistan on Thursday, Sept. 9, 2010. (AP Photo/Khalid Tanveer)


(CNSNews.com) – A group of radical clerics in Pakistan wants the country’s Supreme Court to declare certain passages in the Bible blasphemous – because they depict as flawed certain biblical characters whom Muslims regard as Islamic prophets.
If the court fails to do so, they said, then lawyers will submit an application for the Bible to be formally banned in Pakistan.
The campaign, announced by the clerics at a Lahore mosque and reported Tuesday in the Karachi daily The News and the Urdu-language Roznama Islam, is the latest attempt by radicals to use the country’s blasphemy laws to shield Islam from perceived insults.
Citing Florida pastor Terry Jones’ Qur’an-burning act, the leader of the initiative, Abdul Rauf Farooqi, said the campaigners would like to pay back such “blasphemers” by doing the same to the Bible, but would not follow in their footsteps.
Instead, he and the other clerics in the campaign want Pakistan’s top court to rule that certain passages in the Bible are blasphemous, since they undermine prophets’ sanctity by portraying them as flawed or immoral.
Farooqi, who is leader of the Islamist organization JUI-S (Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam Sami-ul-Haq group), said the “insertions” in the Bible were offensive to Muslims, who hold all prophets in high esteem.
Reports on Farooqi’s statements did not include references to the supposedly blasphemous passages. So sensitive is the subject in Pakistan that people are typically accused of blasphemy without the actual offending words being repeated, lest the accuser, court official or anyone else be accused themselves of blaspheming.
Muslim teaching holds that Mohammed did not establish a new religion in the 7th century, but was the last in a long line of prophets of Islam stretching back to Adam, and including Moses and Jesus.
Among the biblical figures viewed by Muslims as Islamic prophets are some whom the Bible clearly describes as behaving immorally, such as David, who coveted a man’s wife and so sent him to face certain death on the battle frontlines; and Solomon, who later in life sought out pagan women and their gods.
On the other hand, biblical assertions that Jesus is God, that he died and rose from the dead, and that salvation comes through his name only, are all in conflict with Islamic teachings. They, too, could arguably be seen by Muslims as blasphemous – both towards the Qur’an and, indirectly, towards Mohammed, who Muslims believed received the inerrant revelation from Allah.
Pakistan’s blasphemy laws include a provision (295-C) that carries life imprisonment or the death penalty for defiling the name of Muhammad, “by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation or by any imputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly.”
Farooqi was quoted as saying he was confident blasphemy could be proven in court. If they failed to do so, he said, he and his colleagues would accept whatever punishment the court would choose to impose.
In 2006, a prominent Pakistani analyst and writer, Khaled Ahmed, warned about the possibility that radicals could use the blasphemy issue to target the Bible.
“Most Pakistanis are not aware of the dangers our law against blasphemy might entail,” Ahmed wrote at the time. “The law says no prophet shall be insulted and awards death for the offence. This means that prophets in the Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition are all protected.
“But do we know what the Bible says about Old Testament prophets? What if the stories of the Bible are taken to court and found blasphemous? Will we then have to burn the Bible and kill all the Christians who read it?”
Farooqi’s JUI-S party, a split from another religious party named JUI, is closely associated with jihadi organizations including the Taliban. Its founder, Sami-ul-Haq, heads a madrassa that was attended by key Taliban figures, including Mullah Omar.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:17 PM   #2
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Sounds like circular logic to me.
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Old 06-02-2011, 03:02 PM   #3
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I don't care what they do in their own little slice of heaven (aka Crapbag-istan). They just need to stay the hell outta mine.
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Old 06-03-2011, 01:31 AM   #4
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The Koran doesn't paint many biblical figures in a bad light. The kicker is Christ never rose from the dead, never defeated mans enemy, death, end of story for me.
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Old 06-03-2011, 04:38 AM   #5
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It’s obvious that Muslims are going to try to take over the world; they hate Jews and Christians and are willing to die for what they believe. We have a Super Wacko in Iran right now that is 100 times more dangers than OBL ever was and we are doing nothing about it; as long as we have Barney in office nothing will be done about it until he obliterates Israel off the face of the world.
Muslims are Americas worst enemy and should be treated as such; but we have too many freaking libs that are about as dangerous to our way of life defending them.
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Old 06-03-2011, 06:55 AM   #6
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The Koran doesn't paint many biblical figures in a bad light. The kicker is Christ never rose from the dead, never defeated mans enemy, death, end of story for me.
I agree....except that Jesus Christ pre-dates Muhammad by many lifetimes. To incorporate the crucifixion/resurrection/assumption stories as truth in Islam, would be to invalidate their own concept of heaven and the rewards for a just earthly life.
I hold just three truths about muslims:
1: they are our enemies
2: they will attempt to subjugate the 'civilized world' under sharia
3; the will use our own laws and customs against us to achieve their
goals.

Simple....I dont know why anyone who is not a muslim would defend
against this enemy.
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Such a peace loving people.
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Old 06-04-2011, 03:08 AM   #8
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I've been under the impression that most Muslims regard Christians and Jews as "people of the Book" because they adhere to one God, (the God of Abraham) just as Muslims do. They regard Jesus as a prophet, but not as the messiah, so Christians and Jews are not infidels to the same extent as other non-Muslims.

The Koran (Quran?) is supposed to be God's final message to mankind. The Bible is supposed to be part of that message.
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There is precious little objective evidence that Jesus existed and no objective evidence that ANY of the occurences in the New Testament transpired. I guess a man raising people and himself from the dead, healing people, turning water to wine, etc... didn't rise to the level of noteworthy by the historians of the time. A better expression would be that the inception of Christianity happened in the first century.

There is plenty of objective evidence that Mohammed actually existed. (Objective evidence being the writings of secular historians of the time.)
I guess you have to have read the book and honestly asked God to show you whatever He would show you and even then accept whatever He did, that is wisdom.

"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that comes to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."

Are you as open minded as you claim to be? Are you as objective as your attempt at sounding scientific attempts to be? If you are then diligently seek Him and see what happens. It's just between you and Him and no one needs to know of your private experiment in enlightenment. Or, remain in ignorance and never really progress.

I have read many things attempting to dis prove the existence of God because I don't want to live in a lie, how about you?

For those who claim Muslims our enemy and advocate their extinction while speaking in biblical terms, your missing a big part of the picture in what the books teaches on being victorious. When both sides advocate the same approach I can't tell who's who, ya'll look a like to me.

Christ is mentioned more in the Koran than Mohammad and in keeping with their desire to not paint prominent biblical figures in a bad light, Mary was no virgin, Joseph was the father.

They have a hard time with how a segment of Christianity disrespects Mary. That I agree with. You don't insult someones momma, just common sense.
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I've been under the impression that most Muslims regard Christians and Jews as "people of the Book" because they adhere to one God, (the God of Abraham) just as Muslims do. They regard Jesus as a prophet, but not as the messiah, so Christians and Jews are not infidels to the same extent as other non-Muslims.

The Koran (Quran?) is supposed to be God's final message to mankind. The Bible is supposed to be part of that message.
What gave you that impression? The crusades were not a precursor to Woodstock. They don't seem to be getting along to well in their native land either.

I have friends that are Muslim, good neighbors. Bigots believe all Muslims are... we are not all bigots. I do believe they would defend me and mine if needed. I do not know if that is out of some religious conviction. Her mothers dieing, wife just took dinner over to them. Once before she took dinner over and the DH was lapping it up, on his third round he asked what it was, his DW smiled and said venison stew. He had a serious religious struggle apparently as he pushed it away. I don't think he cares for me butchering my own as I don't think they have anything against deer. Very intelligent man, hates Jews, but I'm working on that. Tough sell though, he grew up in the west bank and has serious reasons to keep hating.
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