thank you LBR

[Ranger77]

In the scenario your wife experienced with the dogs, if she had been bitten, who would be to blame? You admited that she acted just like a prey animal--urinating and whimpering when they showed aggression.

you remind me why I hate this place, this forum etc

you made it personal - and I hate that .. stupid attempted to blame my wife for being cornered by dogs? really?


shows your real character LBR

[burniegoeasily]

Didn't take long for Stealthy to present himself full force.

[sachiko]

Stealthy is right, if that really is stealthycat. But whoever he is, he's absolutely right.

[LBR]

As usual, both your biases shine though--get over it already. I'm sure it was embarrassing for a dumb 'ol redneck to best you in a debate, especially someone so "educated" but isn't it more embarrassing to keep it up? It's comedic to picture a little kid jumping up behind an adult and hollering "yeah, what he said!".

First, YOU made it personal by saying only a couple people on this entire site cared anything about hunting. YOU accused me of supporting canned "hunting" when you full well know that's a lie and I despise the practice. YOU brought up the scenario with your wife, and I simply used it to make a point.

Can you point out ANYTING I said that wasn't factual and/or logical? Of course you can't, or you would have.

Do I blame her for someone's dogs running loose? Of course not--that's idiotic--but I wouldn't have blamed the dogs for acting like dogs either. I would advocate that, if they had attacked, they should have been put down immediately. I think you should have been a man and taken care of it right then, whether your wife went with you or not, but that's a different story. I think that the responsible thing to do would be to run a route where you know the dangers, or at least prepare and arm yourself for danger, but again that's a different story.

Same 'ol same 'ol Brad. You want to throw stones like a riding mower travelling down a gravel road...but you are the first to pitch a fit when it's one of your windows that gets broken. Either quit throwing stones or move out of that glass house.

Chad

[sachiko]

Originally Posted by Ranger77

you remind me why I hate this place, this forum etc

you made it personal - and I hate that .. stupid attempted to blame my wife for being cornered by dogs? really?


shows your real character LBR

Acting like a prey animal when you are a prey animal is not unusual or surprising.

[sachiko]

Originally Posted by hugotan

thanx for share. good job.

I wonder if this person gets paid by the post or what. It must take a lot of work to do this.

[Champlain Islander]

This is more like it. See...everyone isn't this more fun than talking about tacos. I personally have never been attacked by a vending machine but then again all the ones at my old corporate headquarters where I spent time had to be bolted to the wall due to safety standards. No mention about Pit Bulls here in my town. There are dog ordinances that state all dogs are to be under direct control of the owner when off their own property. Dog bites are dealt with on a case by case basis by our elected animal control officer. Fannymae the wonder dog has some PB in her. Looks to me that she is a PB and Catahoola Leopard dog cross and since she came from NOLA it is very likely. I would hate to think that I couldn't keep her here since she has some "bad blood".

[halfbakedi420]

<walks into the room...stops..turns around...walks right back out and closes the door>

[LBR]

Acting like a prey animal when you are a prey animal is not unusual or surprising.

A human being is neither prey nor an animal. To imply such is, IMO at least, ridiculous.

Her reaction was not unusual, at least for someone totally uninformed and unprepared, and I never said it was. However, it could have easily been a trigger for an attack, because the dogs could have easily viewed her as prey, especially when she acted like it.

In my opinion, the first in line for the blame were the dog's owners. If she was running on public property (I assume she wasn't running through a yard), the dogs should have been controlled if they were showing aggression.

Last in line for the blame were the dogs themselves. They were just acting like dogs. They didn't realize their territory actually ends at the edge of the property.

The runner herself could have obviously done more to secure her safety.

One, scope out the place where you plan to run. It doesn't matter whether or not the dogs were supposed to be restrained--even if they had been, dogs can slip collars, break chains, and escape fences.

Two, be prepared. A small handgun or container of pepper spray won't weigh enough to hinder a runner.

Three, know what to do if confronted. The LAST thing you want to do is act like something that will trigger the dog's predatory instincts. Humans are at the top of the food chain for a reason--that reason is not because we act like prey.

Finally, I did NOT say or imply it was the lady's fault she was cornered. A couple of people here simply let their blind bias get in the way once again. The partial quote makes it obvious, along with the lack of an answer to the original questions.

Could she have done more to completely avoid the situation, or have delt with it better? Of course, but hindsight is 20/20. The ultimate blame obviously lies squarely on the shoulders of the dog's owner(s).

One more thing: those dogs could have just as easily been dobermans, shepards, labs, collies, hounds, or any number of mixed up breeds and the situation would have been EXACTLY the same, if not worse. ALL dogs are predators, and have predatory instincts. When something is running, urinating, and whimpering, that is a trigger for any predator.

Chad

[The Rev]

Originally Posted by Ranger77

you remind me why I hate this place, this forum

I know this post wasn’t directed at me personally, but if you hate this forum so much why you do come here? I hate turnips; that’s why I don’t eat them!