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Old 05-17-2011, 02:35 AM   #1
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While they give these guys raises and cost of living adjustments, they go to congress asking for about 75 billion to fund their pensions. I say forget about it. Let them defualt, force them into the government fund for failed pensions and shut down the postal system. It's out dated and no longer needed. Certainly at this cost.
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Old 05-17-2011, 02:44 AM   #2
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While they give these guys raises and cost of living adjustments, they go to congress asking for about 75 billion to fund their pensions. I say forget about it. Let them defualt, force them into the government fund for failed pensions and shut down the postal system. It's out dated and no longer needed. Certainly at this cost.
I agree, it’s time the postal service to bow out and let the private sector take care of it. I ship quite a bit and rarely use the postal service, for one I can’t stand waiting in line to give someone my money!
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:03 AM   #3
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The USPS is an interesting thing. It was a promised service to the nation at one point.

The question now is, does the government still need to provide that service? I'm not certain that the USPS is needed like it once was. Ten years ago I probably would have argued differently.
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Old 05-17-2011, 04:15 AM   #4
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The the USPS became your typical bloated federal agency. It is burdened with overpaid supervisory and management personnel who contribute nothing.
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They do have some strange allowances. Have been told that no matter what they charge to ship, UPS must charge double by law. Never checked it out.

Just another example of government not being the answer and the private sector giving government the opportunity to regulate. Obviously people at one time were forced to turn to the government for this service and that was at a time when the people were forced through want to have a higher moral standard. That said the same process in many things should happen very quickly, giving the government that couldn't handle things decades ago a flood of new ones.

UPS is owned and run by some of the most corrupt people in the market, it's why they have such a strong union(government) and because of it USPS will never dissolve.

Here's an example of the nature of UPS and the attitude is celebrated. Just before Christmas they couldn't get pay checks from one state to a neighboring state. No way they couldn't get it there and the people work like dogs during that season. They did it just to be pricks.

I'll add this about ups and fedx be careful shipping hunting items through them, some there don't mind having your package destroyed before you get it and good luck getting compensation.
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I think it's time to raise the cost of stamps and eliminate 3rd class mail. Some adjustments to payroll might be in order also.

I'm not going to knock the postal service, but they need to become, at least, a break even service.

Do they make a profit delivering packages? If not, how about just turning it over to UPS and FEDEX?

We have been paying pretty much everything online.
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Old 05-17-2011, 07:57 AM   #7
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From what I understand, the idiots running the place gave a no layoff guarantee in the latest round of contract negotiations. So imagine that.
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It used to be the USPS was a part of the federal government. US postal employees were federal employees. Their salaries were set based on their federal labor grade. Has that changed? Does the USPS operate as a pseudo-private business now? Do they get to keep the money they recover from stamp sales? from other services? Or is this money put back in the federal coffers? To give an example I'm familiar with, the US patent office charges fees for filing papers -- filing patents, filing replies, filing petitions, filing appeals, etc. -- and they run a substantial surplus of revenues versus expense. BUT their surplus is skimmed off by the ravenous elected spenders. Does the USPS negotiate benefits and compensation independently of other federal employees? Additionally, is the USPS get to set their own operating policies, as would a private business? I don't know.

I do agree that it may be that the USPS may be outdated, that it provides a service which can be provided by private business. What do other countries do? Is there any country that does NOT have a government managed postal service? How well does that work there?
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I'm familiar with, the US patent office charges fees for filing papers -- filing patents, filing replies, filing petitions, filing appeals, etc. -- and they run a substantial surplus of revenues versus expense.
and they do a very poor job in return!!!!!

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Does the USPS negotiate benefits and compensation independently of other federal employees? Additionally, is the USPS get to set their own operating policies, as would a private business? I don't know.
Yes, they are seperate. However, they claim congress mandates them to put retirement money up front and full. Thyey also claim to have enough money stashed away to pay everyone retired until they fie. I don't understand why the need for so many billions in bailouts. They need to slash pay and bennies.
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