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Old 04-21-2011, 06:54 AM   #1
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Cool We made American Rifleman!

If you're a member, check out page 10. This guy, drunk, forces his way into an apartment claiming he lives there. They try to push him out and he assaults them. Husband shoots him and the drunk dies. Prosecutor decides it's justifiable even though the drunk wasn't armed with a weapon.

Interesting background: This prosecutor has been very anti-gun in the past. But he decided that the resident had no choice since he and his wife were being assaulted. This prosecutor has done a 180 turn around. He even approves of open carry in our county now. (The Michigan Constitution says a citizen has the right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.)

It looks like we're winning.
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Old 04-21-2011, 06:59 AM   #2
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Saw that yesterday. Seems that there were a half dozen happy endings on that page...
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:12 AM   #3
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I saw that one too. An armed citizen is a good deterrent for having problems with the criminal element. If someone comes into my home and I don’t know them I wouldn’t take the chance that they were “lost”.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:15 AM   #4
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That is probably my favorite column in American Rifleman. I probably read that page entirely the very first night after it comes in the mail. It does seem odd to me, however, that American Rifleman is able to fill a page with descriptions of about 6 such instances of gun owners defending themselves successfully every month, 12 times per year, year after year after year, but I almost never hear any such stories on the TV? Also, it seems I see a contrary position aired, such as that guns inherently are useless as instruments of self-defense.

I like the story in this month's issue where the man calls 9-1-1, says he has a gun and is defending himself from the criminal. The 9-1-1 dispatcher tells him to put away the gun and just wait for police to arrive. The man disregards this advice and shoots the cirminal in defense of himself. Seems like that "wait for police" strategy has been undermined significantly by the signal case in Washington DC where the woman was raped and assaulted over more than 10 hours and called the police several times; police never came; woman died; woman's family sued. Court ruled the police has no obligation to protect anyone individual. Well heck, under that stipulation -- no obligation to protect any one individual -- you better believe I'm not putting my gun down and waiting for the police to arrive! I'll take care of myself, thank you very much.

Enough of my rant. I do love that column though.

Question: how many criminals would break into people's houses and attack people if everyone defended themselvese with guns as is done by those in these brief stories? Not many. And that population would decline rapidly!
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:34 AM   #5
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When we lived in Lawton our city council lady owned a liquor store. She made The Rifleman by shooting a stickup man smack between the running lights.
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Awww Lawton. I love to ride motorcycles in Medicine Park.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:45 AM   #7
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That is probably my favorite column in American Rifleman. I probably read that page entirely the very first night after it comes in the mail. It does seem odd to me, however, that American Rifleman is able to fill a page with descriptions of about 6 such instances of gun owners defending themselves successfully every month, 12 times per year, year after year after year, but I almost never hear any such stories on the TV? Also, it seems I see a contrary position aired, such as that guns inherently are useless as instruments of self-defense.
These types of use don't "fit the narrative..."

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Court ruled the police has no obligation to protect anyone individual. Well heck, under that stipulation -- no obligation to protect any one individual -- you better believe I'm not putting my gun down and waiting for the police to arrive! I'll take care of myself, thank you very much.
When seconds count, the Police are hours away... Happens every day. It seems like their primary duty is to write up an after incident report... I know that my wife has called 911 when being physically threatened by a crackhead customer and the po-po never showed up. Fortunately, the crackhead was dragged out of the store by relatives before the incident escalated to actual physical violence.
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Most purveyors of "news" do not consider self defense shootings to be newsworthy.


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I love to ride motorcycles in Medicine Park.
Medicine Park is a really neat place. We go there pretty often.

This is a shooting that took place at a Medicine Park bar last weekend. The shootee was a former Lawton fire marshal. Our proscecutor will give the bar owner a pass.

http://swoknews.com/main.asp?Section...62&TM=26368.69
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Crazy. .........
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