We got this unholy national debt through runaway spending and tax cuts. BTW, Ryan's so called plan cuts the highest tax rate from 35 to 25 percent.
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Senator Saxby Chambliss said the U.S. House’s 2012 budget proposal by fellow Republican Paul Ryan is “not going to work” because it relies too heavily on spending cuts and doesn’t raise tax revenue to help cut the deficit.
Yeah, raise taxes. Ryan's plan was mostly bipartisan that we spent a lot of money and time writing it up. We don't have a tax problem here in the US other than they are too high for some and not enbough for others. We have a spending problem and a truth problem coming from DC. We need to encourage a no vote to lifting the debt ceiling and force congress to live with in its means.
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Washington is addicted to spending and they will not stop until made to stop. Unions and trial lawyers will never permit the democrats to reduce the amount of spending or the size of government. I think it will have to take something drastic. It will have to take a tax revolt where the people refuse to allow the government to keep confiscating more of our freedom (money = freedom).
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Daddys little girl. You do realize of course that your parents and your husbands parents are going to take MAJOR hit on their medicare and medcaid benefits if that legislation passes don't you? It would probably be necessary that you and your husband pick up the slack (to the tune of thousands of dollars a year) unless they weren't on fixed incomes. I am not saying that this is a bad thing from a federal fiscal solvency standpoint. I suspect your parents are not nearly as happy about Ryans plan as you are.
I wouldn't get to worked up about anyways. There is not a chance in hell of it passing in the Senate. Anybody voting for it would ousted by the senior vote in the next election and our senators are too addicted to the power to risk their jobs on something like this.
I (a supposed fiscal conservative) get weak in the knees thinking about losing $5k/yr when Walkers budget get implemented. I spoke with my wife's aunt this week and had the most interesting conversation. She was a teacher at MPS and retired at the age of 55. Her benefits are untouchable. She told me that she went to Madison on three occasions during her tenure to protest potential cuts in her benefits. I asked her what she thought about Walker's proposal. She ENTHUSIASTICALLY supported it!!!!! The stone cold bitch!!! She got all her benefits paying much less than my wife paid but now turns on her old colleagues for her own selfish interests!
The American system is built on greed. Greed is good according to capitalism. If the axiom is true, then Americans are angels because we are the greediest mofos on the planet.
I see it now and realize that I am like everybody else. We all like to stick it to other guy if it improves our own bottom line. I am on this occasion being a genuine American hero and very very tepidly supporting Walker on the basis that is the only fiscally responsible path available EVEN THOUGH IT WILL HAVE A DIRECT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY LIFE!
I imagine when my retirement comes, I will be making federal benefit concessions that will make this one seem like a walk in the park. I wouldn't be surprised if all benefits are withheld from me based on the amount of money I was able to save up for my retirement (penalizing me for living a frugal life and denying myself all the instant gratification that my peers delved in). Wouldn't that be ironic. It would be par for the course the way my life is going. I have had enjoyed 12 years of investing in a market that is about at the same level as when I started. I would have done as well to dig a hole in the ground and buried my money there.
Hey HD, the government's. True debt is north of 100 trillion. Where do you suppose that money comes from if we continue this farse called Medicare, Medicaid and SS?
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Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
Daddys little girl. You do realize of course that your parents and your husbands parents are going to take MAJOR hit on their medicare and medcaid benefits if that legislation passes don't you? It would probably be necessary that you and your husband pick up the slack (to the tune of thousands of dollars a year) unless they weren't on fixed incomes. I am not saying that this is a bad thing from a federal fiscal solvency standpoint. I suspect your parents are not nearly as happy about Ryans plan as you are.
I wouldn't get to worked up about anyways. There is not a chance in hell of it passing in the Senate. Anybody voting for it would ousted by the senior vote in the next election and our senators are too addicted to the power to risk their jobs on something like this.
We have little reason to be concerned about our parents. My husband's parents have passed on and my mother is only 35. What I am concerned about is the future in general, particularly the inability of our elected officials to establish any priorities.
We have a fiscal crisis, as far as I'm concerned, yet there always seems to be money for iPods for kindergartners, bike paths, NPR, NEA, and money to suppport the lifestyle of career welfare recipients. And the number of apparently healthy people receiving disability payments is astounding.
Show me where kids who go through Headstart do better in high school than those who don't and I'll support it. But you can't.
By eliminating hundreds of feel-good programs, we could also eliminate the cost of the salaries and benefits of the government employees attached to these "programs."
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I heard Jesus He drank wine and I bet we'd get along just fine.
We have a fiscal crisis, as far as I'm concerned, yet there always seems to be money for iPods for kindergartners, bike paths, NPR, NEA, and money to suppport the lifestyle of career welfare recipients. And the number of apparently healthy people receiving disability payments is astounding.
Little girl, those programs are at the noise level. Remove all of them completely and it won't change the date we go bankrupt as a nation by more than a month or two. Social security, medicare and medicaid are projected to equal the entire GNP within 2 decades. The only way to get out of this mess is to drastically cut the quality of life of retirees, drastically increase the SS, medicaid and medicare taxes by the general public, and force retirees to depend much more on the income of their children. There is simply not enough money to pay for retirement benefits. How many children of retirees can afford to pay $30/40K per year to make up for what the taxpayers don't have?
We as a nation are about to get a whole heck of lot poorer.
HD, the only way our nation gets poorer is by the government taxing us more. Why would you even entertain increasing the revenue going to a ponzi scheme when it only protects the wealth of inheritance?
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Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
The only way to get out of this mess is to drastically cut the quality of life of retirees
And why is that?
Because for decades the government has fostered a culture of dependency.
IMHO the real culprits here are the politicians who have so meddled in to our economy and lifestyle that they have practically FUBARed health care and personal savings.
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Sen. Chambliss Says Taxes Must Be Raised
