So today, I was thinking about this. I brought it up before when discussing my future manufacturing business and where I may locate. However, many on the left and "so called" independents complain about us buying things made in China to sell here.
So today, I unfortunately discovered I had dropped my wallet in the draveway last night. As fate has it, it stormed big time last night. Of all nights for me to drop my wallet. Anyway its ruined. So I called my niece who happens to be a buyer for these good coming from overseas. It's her last day at this company. Did I luck out? Anyway, she is shipping me 3 new wallets. So thats why I'm thinking about this today.
How much do you suppose this belt costs delivered to the distributer in NY?
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So, no lib wanted to take a shot at this. Empty, you're very close. Around $3.00 to get that belt to NY and it's on sale for 45. So I ask you libs, really, you want to bitch about 6%? Heck, states make more money in taxes. Then one must ask, where did the leather come from? How much raw hide do we ship there that goes into that belt?
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
One of the many reasons I do not knowingly buy things made in China. The other big one being that most of it is crap. Quality and quality control are just rumors in China. They would rather replace a faulty item 3 times than make it right.
Having worked in a "box store" part time. I saw this for myself. Even the so-called brand names were poorly made. They looked like the real thing but, if you went to an actual dealer of that brand, you could see the difference. Whether it was out door grills, garden equipment, tools, doors, etc., this was evident. I check the "Made in USA" website before I buy anything to see which brands are made here. You may want to consider listing your company there.
I wish you success. We need more new businesses and hope Americans will support them.
Maybe if low educated, low skilled factory workers in this country didnt expect 100k or even 50k a year, plus benefits to slap 2 pieces of plastic together, we could sell our goods at a reasonable price. I buy stuff cause I need it, not to employ people who made poor choices in life.
Not everything made in the USA is high quality either, I recently bought several new pieces of equipment for work, all usa and canada made, a couple I had to send back cause they were flat out defective or poorly assembled, the stuff that works isnt anything to bragg about either. Just bought a new USA made chain wallet online too, took the SOB 3 weeks to ship the "instock" item thats poor service. For the xtra $ youd think the quality and service would be there, nope!
Besides, cheap but reasonable quality goods, like clothes and plastic products are a hedge against inflation.
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Determining cost of a product can be in most cases fairly easy. The price one sees on the tag in a store, usually has a distributor markup of between 500-1000%. From belts to furniture, the distributors make the coin. Recently Ive notice a reasurgence of poly-vinyl leather coats coming out of the orient. This leaves me to believe that domestically they dont have the quanity of hides as a raw product. I would tend to believe that they more then likely are getting the bulk of their leather regionally, or it is imported from places like South America. I am aware of Chinas trade in lumber, where they have ships that dock here and recieve their load of wood then during their voyage back to China they tool the trees on board ship, and when entering their port the finished lumber is off loaded to assembly plants where the furniture is manufactured. The ship then loads up with other products and again returns to the States, to repeat the process all over again.
Its a good thing. I like buying stuff that is inexpensive. Yes, some Chinese stuff is junk. So was much ***anese stuff originally. I've been driving a ***anese Toyota Corolla since 1998, and it ain't junk anymore. China will get its act together over time. Additionally, I did say SOME Chinese stuff is junk. Almost all our electronics is made in China now. I bet my Dell laptop computer that I'm using right now was built in China. I would not be surprised to find out that my Samsung phone was built in China. You know, those people working in their factories are just as smart and just as skilled as our people working in our factories here. Our factory workers didn't graduate from Harvard either. So, when big companies go in and set up assembly shops in China, so long as they exercise oversight and make sure corners aren't cut on processes and/or set-up, why shouldn't the product be just as good?
But you know, at a certain level this is academic. The fact is China is going to sell a lot of stuff in our market. If you work for a company making stuff that is made in China, you are competing with workers in China who work . . . really cheap. If you think that is a good career path, go for it dude. And repeat this tale again for Thailand, Singapore, India, eastern Europe, Ireland. Globalization is not going to go backwards. Really, globalization is just the continuation of the free market that has largely prevailed for a long time, just certain geographical factors have lost importance in the marketplace -- meaning factors that gave advantages to those located in the US versus those located geographically elsewhere. Additionally, other competitive factors have changed. Others around the world have improved their educational level relative to us in the US. Other economies have strengthened and thrown off impediments that formerly prevented these economies from competing with us. The trend is going to continue and increase. No politician is going to reverse this. I suggest whoever adapt appropriately, because we're not going back to how things used to be.
as a freight forwarder/customs broker
can tell you its cheaper to ship it from china to NY than it is to truck it from west coast to east coast
40' ctnr from HK to NY is about $3500
not counting duty, and whatever other fees,
to truck it from LA to NY, last time i even check that was 5-10 yrs ago and +$4500
also i try to buy US made as much as possible
if you buy a foreign made car say at $25k,
thats the equivilant to spending $100/month at walmart on china made goods for the next 20 yrs
so rather see people with a $45 china made CK wallet, than see them driving a $45k lexus
I buy two products from China, they have beaten the Americans on delivery dates, product quality, warranty, and price including shipping. Why not, I'm saving about a million dollars a year on construction cost.
I used to buy these products here, but Americans have priced their selves out of the market, I shop the two products between Mexico and China, the Unions have made it impossible for them to compete. Another reason I quit buying here is that occasionally I have a problem with factory defect, Americans rant and rave about fixing the problem. I have not had one issue getting a problem resolved with either Mexico or China.
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Go figure!
Amen! I bought a some tools from a small company in Ft worth TX last month, damn things were terrible, loose parts and completly useless, they didnt answer my emails, so I made a video posted it on YT and sent it to them, they answered me back with a nasty email and told me to send it back cause "they didnt have time to deal with petty complaints" I did and they had the nerve to refund my 300$ - 41$ for shipping and and restocking!!!! Made in the USA pfft! use to mean somthin.
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Folks, it's sick out there, and it's getting sicker.
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So, China making goods to sell here is that bad?
I did and they had the nerve to refund my 300$ - 41$ for shipping and and restocking!!!!
Made in the USA pfft! use to mean somthin.
