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Old 03-16-2011, 05:44 AM   #1
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Apparently, I chose the wrong career. According to Adrian Peterson, RB, Vikings, the going wage for modern day slaves is $10.6 Million per year.




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Old 03-16-2011, 06:21 AM   #2
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You have to feel for these guys. Can you imagine having to humiliate yourself by being forced to play a children's game, week after week, in front of thousands of people, not to mention, perhaps millions, watching on TV?
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While racist and crude, I find Marge Schott's comments to be particularly applicable in the case of NFL players. It's an industry where the relationship between players and fans has been reduced to one of parasite/host, where the fans can pay for their tickets but they have no access to players who are their heros. Went to a Giants game and watched LT almost run down a couple'a kids lookin' for autographs...I object.
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Old 03-16-2011, 07:20 AM   #4
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Apparently, I chose the wrong career. According to Adrian Peterson, RB, Vikings, the going wage for modern day slaves is $10.6 Million per year.




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Right, modern day slaves.

What a pity, how will they be able to buy they Ripple?
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:15 AM   #5
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Saw that this morning, nobody is making them play!

Any business owner of a company that is private, has no obligation to open his books.
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:22 AM   #6
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well I can say that for that klind'a dough I'd suit up and walk onto the field....won't last long...but that kind'a money don't grow on trees....HAHAHAAHAHAAH
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:59 AM   #7
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Have you seen former nfl players who are 60+ nowadays?

many can't walk.

many have Alzheimers.

granted they're trying to make the nfl safer,

I love how we bash the players when you know the owners are earning 10x or more what the players are.

Personally I'd rather see players and owners earning less so I can still buy a hot dog and a coke for under $8 a piece, but that's wishful thinking I think nowadays. Last I heard many more tickets are going to companies instead of individuals, like when yankees new stadium happened, box seats almost all went to corporations simply due to the cost.

I may be wrong, but isn't the NFL one of the only prof sports in the US without guaranteed contracts or something like if you get hurt you don't get the rest of your years pay etc...? I'd have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure other sports have way better contracts for players. Avg NFL career is 3 years I believe...

What's the average NFL contract anyway? $500k?

Maybe prices will come down though, for tickets, food, players, owners, etc... I hear fewer and fewer people are attending games, course the economy is down, but they say with all these HD tv's etc...why even bother going to a game?

I remember wanting season tickets, so I went to a game, missed so much being in the stands, parking, walking forever to get to the game, cold, blah blah blah, I said no thanks I'll watch it at home, I'll still attend a game, esp if a i get a free ticket, but buy tickets and attending a game are pretty low on my to do list. Course going to a cubs game is another story...but then again you don't go to a cubs game to watch baseball...
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Have you seen former nfl players who are 60+ nowadays?

many can't walk.

many have Alzheimers.

granted they're trying to make the nfl safer,

I love how we bash the players when you know the owners are earning 10x or more what the players are.

Personally I'd rather see players and owners earning less so I can still buy a hot dog and a coke for under $8 a piece, but that's wishful thinking I think nowadays. Last I heard many more tickets are going to companies instead of individuals, like when yankees new stadium happened, box seats almost all went to corporations simply due to the cost.

I may be wrong, but isn't the NFL one of the only prof sports in the US without guaranteed contracts or something like if you get hurt you don't get the rest of your years pay etc...? I'd have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure other sports have way better contracts for players. Avg NFL career is 3 years I believe...

What's the average NFL contract anyway? $500k?

Maybe prices will come down though, for tickets, food, players, owners, etc... I hear fewer and fewer people are attending games, course the economy is down, but they say with all these HD tv's etc...why even bother going to a game?

I remember wanting season tickets, so I went to a game, missed so much being in the stands, parking, walking forever to get to the game, cold, blah blah blah, I said no thanks I'll watch it at home, I'll still attend a game, esp if a i get a free ticket, but buy tickets and attending a game are pretty low on my to do list. Course going to a cubs game is another story...but then again you don't go to a cubs game to watch baseball...

Personally, I think professional sports is completely sold out. I will not spend a dime on a Giants 'napkin', let alone 40 or 50 bucks on a Yankee hat. They won't get a dime from me, and that's because we no longer pay their salaries...theydepend on corporations buying up blocks of box seats, andthey depend on endorsements. Who the hell needs my inconsequential chump change anymore ? Well, I don't need them either....
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:46 PM   #9
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I think it is simpler than y'all are making it. This is simple economics. There is a heap of money on the table -- ticket sales, advertising revenue, TV licensing fees -- and the question is who sweeps how much money into whose pockets? The players, naturally, want to get their share. As far as I know, the owners are wanting to increase the share that they sweep into their pockets, without giving plausible rationale for doing that.

As private businesses can they do that? Yes they can. By the same token, I'm not going to complain when the players take umbrage that they are being taken advantage of. If you redealed my compensation cards -- to my detriment -- I would avoid that as much as possible. Do bear in mind that it is a reasonable argument that the reason why many of us tune in on Sunday afternoon and Monday night is because of the players, not because of the owners. The players rightfully think they ought to get a proportional distribution of the proceeds of this game. Suppose the share is 40% to the players. If the owners want to shift that down to 35% to the players, if I were a player I'm thinking I want to see clear and convincing evidence that there is an economic reason for this -- other than the owners just chumping me on my share of produced value.

Does a player deserve $12 M salary? I think that is the wrong question. It is no better of a question than to ask does Jerry Jones deserve to charge $75 to park a car in the parking lot in front of his new football stadium. It is capitalism, and the question is what will the market bear?
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:41 PM   #10
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I think the only umbrage being taken, at least on my part, was with regard to a dude making almost $11 Million per year suggesting that he was a victim of "modern day slavery."
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