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Old 03-14-2011, 07:45 AM   #1
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Default GOP: Can't trust'em,

The GOP is still erroneously envoking Reagan, singing the praises of the Tax Raiser,
However, these revisionist views, expressed and championed by Limbaugh, Gingrich et.al.
are corrected here, and the record is set straight by Reagan's friend and long time conservative Alan Simpson (R).

From the mouth of his longtime friend,
Republican former Sen. Alan Simpson — who was a friend of Pres. Ronald Reagan and who was conservative enough to be elected to the Senate three times by voters in Wyoming, Dick Cheney’s home state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KInQb...layer_embedded

The myth dispelled from one of his own, and also dispelled by Reagan's own budget director, David Stockman.

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I didn’t come to this commission to raise taxes. That’s the myth. But I’ll tell ya, they’ve got to be on the table and they are on the table. So I’ll get my share of crap on that one.

But let’s just disengage ourselves from the myth that Ronald Reagan never raised taxes. He did. And here are four big ones. So I hope this will clear the air for some of the groups today.

In 1982, the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act, that rolled back about a third of his ‘81 tax cuts, raised corporate tax rates, and to a lesser extent income tax rates. Raised taxes by almost 1 percent of GDP, which at that time was the largest percentage in peacetime increase ever.

[The] 1982 gas tax increase. [The] 1983 Greenspan commission — we know so well; [fellow commission member Alice Rivlin] remembers — we all … raised payroll taxes for lower and middle income households to higher than they were before Reagan’s ‘81 tax cuts. Then there was the 1984 deficit reduction tax.

Those are the big four. Then there was the Railroad Retirement Revenue Act, Consolidated Omnibus Budget of ‘85… ‘85…’87 Continuing Resolution, Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of ‘87, that was $8.6 billion

So there were a lot of them. Just thought I’d throw that in.

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Old 03-14-2011, 08:27 AM   #2
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Old 03-14-2011, 08:28 AM   #3
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Yep, the GOP's own Alan Simpson and David Stockman calls Reagan out and dispells the myth.

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Old 03-14-2011, 05:09 PM   #4
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Anyone care to straighten out Alan Simpson (R)?

Fieldmouse?

We're waiting.........................
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:19 PM   #5
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repeal the reagan tax cuts!


they're the part of big business and the rich, and don't care about the middle or lower classes, in fact the further they can drive these classes into indentured servitude the happier they'd be. A small upper class, a tiny middle class, a huge lower class. Force this lower class to work til they die making the upper class billions.

I love a guy making 50k/year arguing for tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires then when you call them on it they say, well if I or my kids are every lucky enough to be in that situation they don't want to pay those kinds of taxes. Wake up people, that'll probably never happen, certainly not to most, and if it does, worry about your taxes then. I'd rather pay 50% on 10 million, than 28% on 50k.

Luckily more and more dems are coming along.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:43 PM   #6
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If either of you two had a half a brain you'd know that increasing Corporate Taxes increases taxes on the Middle Class. While lowering Marginal Taxes raises Tax revenue from the wealthiest Americans by increasing the amount of Reported Taxable Income.

Give this a try. It might educate you some.
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tru...n%2F13tax.html
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tru...746%26type%3D1
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tru...xes.guest.html
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:48 PM   #7
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I never mentioned increasing corporate taxes.

Btw the big 6 banks on average paid 11% in tax, not 35%.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:54 PM   #8
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Old 03-14-2011, 06:28 PM   #10
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I never mentioned increasing corporate taxes.

Btw the big 6 banks on average paid 11% in tax, not 35%.
Its a given that you want to increase Corporate taxes given the nature of all of your posts.
Since Corporations don't pay their "fair share".

Also, care to back up with proof how much the Top 6 banks paid in taxes?
Or did you mean how much their customers paid in taxes for the services provided by the banks.
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