On Hannity now. Despite baggage, this is the guy...
Calling for 0% capital gains tax. 12.5% corporate rate.
Fully depreciate equipment in one year. That'll get the economy moving. Smarter than ANYONE the left can put up. By far. Smarter than anybody on the right as well... Obama is the 'great orator" but, Newt can talk rings around him. Has already demonstrated that he can get things done in DC, can balance a budget, and can use tax policy to create private sector jobs. And, on the right side of most issues.
On most issues is right. My biggest issue is universal ??? He does believe in that stuff. However, I'm glad he's going to step up to the plate and he is a leading candidate for all he has said.
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I'm not clear on what you're talking about here. What is this "universal ???" that he believes in?
Healthcare, so it's a big one.
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John Adams “The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.”
Ronald Reagan: 'Everybody that is for abortion has already been born'
"I never said I was worth it. I only said I wouldn't do it for less " William F. Buckley Jr.
O'REILLY: Yes, I understand that. It's chaotic. Does the federal government, in your opinion, owe Americans free health?
GINGRICH: No. I think the American people have the right to expect a system where they can buy insurance. I think for the very poor, we ought to find a way to give them a tax credit to help them buy the insurance. But I think we want to keep health something that you own that you're in charge of.
From Center for Healthcare Transformation, which he founded:
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We also believe that our government should be a collaborative partner, setting standards but not engaging in micromanaging processes or the free enterprise system.
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Newt does have his baggage, yet I feel much more comfortable with him then a Mitt, Sarah or a Hucklebee. I think we are going to need someone with alot of experience to pull us out of this mess. Knowing the Constitution inside and out is a plus too, unlike Barry who it clueless. It would be comical to see Barry debate the Newton, he would be in a perpetual stammer mode.
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Newt does have his baggage, yet I feel much more comportable with him then a Mitt, Sarah or a Hucklebee. I think we are going to need someone with alot of experience to pull us out of this mess. Knowing the Constitution inside and out is a plus too, unlike Barry who it clueless. It would be comical to see Barry debate the Newton, he would be in a perpetual stammer mode.
+1. Newt plus Col. Allen West as VP. There's a ticket.
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They have to come up with some better people to guarantee a win in '12. The same old tired GOP couldn't beat an idiot like Obama in '08. Time right now to cultivate some of the younger GOP and get some energy into the party. Talking about Newt, Sarah, Romney, or Huck is nothing more than the same thing that lost last time. I want to see some fresh faces with new ideas that will appeal to the youth voters looking for change. The time is ripe to defeat Obama and no mistakes can be made. The only thing worse than 4 years of Obama is 8 years.
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I think a lot of people in the Republican party could win the presidency. Newt has a lot going for him. He is smart, informed, articulate, knows how Washington works. He seems to be interested in principles -- how far he, or any politician, is willing to stick to their principles is always a touchy subject.
But back to my first sentence. Many people in the Republican party could win the presidency. The key is running a smart campaign and not getting pushed around by the mainstream media or special interest groups -- such as specific political factions. It seems like the key would be to articulate a small number of high level abstractions to run on -- Obama had just one "change." Talk about high level abstraction!!!! How about (1) limited government, (2) accountability, and (3) a multi-million dollar federal project across the street from my house that will quintiple my property value. Just joking about #3.
You frame an abstraction that the Democrats and Obama CANNOT stand for. It is abstract enough so everyone can morph their own concerns to fall within the abstraction. You resist the attempts of the opposition and the mainstream media to force you to map that abstraction into specific real-world actions -- much as Obama did during his election. Did we know what "Change" was? No, the only thing we heard much about was the bad stuff that had occured in the past. Ditto. Limited government is something a LOT of people who aren't left wing, liberal, die-hard Democrats can get committed to. Accountability? Maybe not such an obvious winner. It is just a thought. But again, it seems a concept that a lot of people could morph their own life experiences towards and get on board with. And again, the discussion could focus on the unaccountability of Democrats in power. It seems like there has been plenty of stuff done behind the scenes in Washington that hasn't been accounted for. How about, just as an example, the dismissal of the Black Panther election harrassment thing? How about the ACORN relationship with the Democratic party? How about Healthcare -- from the specific point of view of elected leaders going against the expressed will of the people?
Relative to healthcare itself as one of these key issues. I'm not sure it qualifies as high level and abstract enough. I'm afraid investing too much into this as the key point of the campaign would suffer from getting too complicated for folks to follow and is more susceptible to nitpicking by Democrats, chip away at corners. It could turn into a battle of competing predictive statistics that few people get excited about or fully trust. People tend to select those facts and figures that support their point of view -- and I include the votingn public most especially in that. Healthcare has to be a sort of second tier idea. And here too some small number of abstractions need to be framed up. Interstate insurance coverage. Tort reform. Others, but a small number of others. Keep at the high level, don't get wrapped around the axle on implementation details.
The Obama and the democrats have a very definite past that they have built up from 2008 to 2012. The goal HAS to be saying (1) this is where Obama has taken and wants to continue taking the country; (2) this is where we want to take the country; (3) if you want to get to Obama-nation, vote for Obama; (4) if you want to get to other-nation, vote for our man. It is real simple. It isn't about words -- change -- it is about the concrete actions the Democrats and Obama have done. Accountability. It means owning your actions and saying that you own them and not spinning them and creating the narrative. Obama is for European style socialized economy, with a lot of central controls from the federal government. No? Remember General Motors? Stimulus bill? Healthcare?
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