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Old 03-01-2011, 03:58 PM   #1
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Eric Holder Testified in the last few days before Congress that he had a conversation with President Obama to the effect that he (Holder) and the DOJ legal team felt that the DOMA was not Constitutionally sound, and thus, the DOJ should not continue to support the act. According to Holder's testimony, President Obama agreed with the decision.

BAD move, this is absurd, and tantamount to political suicide in the next election, likely making this a watershed event towards a One-Term-Obama. Notwithstanding other issues discussed here on the board.

The CNN clip I saw showed a Congressman (didn't catch his name) asking very civil and pointed questions about why the DOJ had "changed" its stance since in the previous years it had supported the Act.

Holder's non-answer consisted of vague legal-ease which is sure to backfire among republicans and many democrats.

Shame on you President Obama for dropping the ball/torch on this key issue.

DOMA is the only federal act that attempts to solidify what marriage means to virtually all of modern civilization.

Even the Romans and Greeks who openly practiced homosexuality did not sanction, nor even consider the marriage of same sexes.

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Old 03-01-2011, 04:26 PM   #2
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Testified in the last few days before Congress that he had a conversation with President Obama to the effect that he (Holder) and the DOJ legal team felt that the DOMA was not Constitutionally sound, and thus, the DOJ should not continue to support the act.
Typical bho hypocricy and power madness. It's not his place to determine whether a law is "Constitutionally sound" or not. On top of that, the "healthcare reform" he and the Washington dems shoved down our throats actually has been found unconstitutional, even if by a lower court, but he insists on continuing to shove it on down our throats.

He's a traitor to the Constitution, a national embarrassment. In my humble opinion, of course.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:10 PM   #3
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Typical bho hypocricy and power madness. It's not his place to determine whether a law is "Constitutionally sound" or not. On top of that, the "healthcare reform" he and the Washington dems shoved down our throats actually has been found unconstitutional, even if by a lower court, but he insists on continuing to shove it on down our throats.

He's a traitor to the Constitution, a national embarrassment. In my humble opinion, of course.
Yes, I agree with your assessment on the edict of Obama on DOMA. And I furthermore agree that the Healthcare Reform as it stands is wrong and probably Un-Constitutional. I only hope it is fast-tracked to the SCOTUS and ruled as such.

Hey LBR:

Don't look now but you and I are agreeing on some things.
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Old 03-02-2011, 06:19 AM   #4
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Sorry but the president does not get to decide what is and is not constitutional. One would think a law "professor" would know that.
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Holder says that DOMA is unconstitutional. He cites some court rulings.

http://www.365gay.com/news/attorney-...onstitutional/
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Holder says that DOMA is unconstitutional. He cites some court rulings.

http://www.365gay.com/news/attorney-...onstitutional/
Yep, once upon a time, the judicial branch of the federal government was charged with such determinations.
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Yep... Constitutional Law "Professor" who doesn't have a clue about the separation of powers. "Legislative and Judicial Branches be damned. Full speed ahead..." Every single person who votes for these people next time around is an idiot.
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Exactly. Obama and Holder decided to pander to their beloved gays. Gays are just one group of the scalawag coalition that is the liberal base.
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DOMA wouldn’t be necessary if you didn’t have the State sticking its nose where it doesn’t belong in the first place. Marriage is a religious institution. I am not married to my wife because I paid a tax and got a lousy state-issued “certificate of marriage.” That piece of paper doesn’t mean crap to me. If two men want to get “married” it doesn’t make it so just because the State gave them a piece of paper that “certifies” their “marriage.”
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I agree that a piece of state-issued paper doesn't make anyone married or not as far as religion goes...but it does make a difference when you are talking about insurace, benefits, etc.

It can have a big impact on business, even your insurance rates, seeing how gay men generally have health problems that heterosexuals gnerally don't. Whether or not the state recognizes a gay "marriage" or not will affect us all, one way or another.
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