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Old 02-23-2011, 12:26 PM   #1
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Default Montana says they wont enforce federal law against the wolf protection

And many applauded the lawlessness. I said support it and your supporting others who'll do the same for whatever they want.


>>In a major reversal, the Obama administration has notified Congress that it will no longer defend the federal law that says marriage can exist only between a man and a woman.<<

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Old 02-23-2011, 12:29 PM   #2
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And many applauded the lawlessness. I said support it and your supporting others who'll do the same for whatever they want.


>>In a major reversal, the Obama administration has notified Congress that it will no longer defend the federal law that says marriage can exist only between a man and a woman.<<

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I'm not sure this is precisely on point. Why should the state of Montana be on the hook for enforcing a federal law? Now on the other hand, the federal government ought to enforce its own federal law, seems to me.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:37 PM   #3
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I'm not sure this is precisely on point. Why should the state of Montana be on the hook for enforcing a federal law? Now on the other hand, the federal government ought to enforce its own federal law, seems to me.
Yep... Hasn't the Administration, in essence, sued Arizona for attempting to enforce federal law... "That's our job. You shouldn't try to do it..."
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:51 PM   #4
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Yep... Hasn't the Administration, in essence, sued Arizona for attempting to enforce federal law... "That's our job. You shouldn't try to do it..."
excellent point, i realise its the government and it can do basically whatever it wants, but for common folks you cant have it both ways. Im a strict federalist, most of the powers should lie with the state, the federal government should ride in to handle interstate matters and make war and other then that mostly stay out of the way
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And many applauded the lawlessness. I said support it and your supporting others who'll do the same for whatever they want.


>>In a major reversal, the Obama administration has notified Congress that it will no longer defend the federal law that says marriage can exist only between a man and a woman.<<

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I guess the Obama administration was just waiting for the state of MT to lead the way....lol...........makes sense...not
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wouldn't everybody say that if it is true...that Obama is re-nigging on his oath of office...and should therefore be canned....I mean how much plainer can it be???
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wouldn't everybody say that if it is true...that Obama is re-nigging on his oath of office...and should therefore be canned....I mean how much plainer can it be???
if hes re-nigging on his oath of office, what does that make him....coudlnt resist
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Old 02-24-2011, 07:35 AM   #8
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I guess the Obama administration was just waiting for the state of MT to lead the way....lol...........makes sense...not
I don't suppose you would find the sense in it. I didn't say what I said after the fact. I said what I said before the fact and now it is.

To add insult to injury both are democrats.
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I'm not sure this is precisely on point. Why should the state of Montana be on the hook for enforcing a federal law? Now on the other hand, the federal government ought to enforce its own federal law, seems to me.
Why? Because it's government rules.

On more than many occasions people here have noticed the poly of instigating class envy. The government does that with many things in order to gain support for what they want. In this case the "class envy" is the wolf lover and the wolf hater. The wolf hater supported lawlessness because of their envy. This issue with Obama is the same. In the end it is best not to support lawlessness and even more so when the one's doing it are the one's with the power.

Neither are about the wolf or the gay, they are about circumventing the law and using class envy to do it. Allow it for your own personal reasons and I don't think anyone can imagine where it will end.

I'm all for getting rid of the wolf but it must be done after it becomes offensive to the people not just the rancher/hunter. If it isn't allowed to make it's case before it does in the eye's of the majority it will become a martyr and the hunter hated. Besides, if it is allowed to "share the love" we the hunter will be paid to kill it. How many hunters are going to buy enough tags to control it? Not many, not near enough and in that case will always be only a problem for the rancher/hunter.
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Old 02-24-2011, 08:07 AM   #10
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Yep... Hasn't the Administration, in essence, sued Arizona for attempting to enforce federal law... "That's our job. You shouldn't try to do it..."
In both cases the issues are the removal of what the particular state finds offensive and circumventing the federal government to do it. It just sets the stage for further abuses based on who's in power, not the law. What happens when the next governor comes in and doesn't have the same view point, the law has already been established they can do what they want.

In my head with the wolf issue, when the state said we're going to turn a blind eye if you break the law, my brain said, "since you aint no friend of mine, aint no way I'm going down that road with you, you'll sell me, a nobody out with out a second thought." Matter of fact, just them looking at me and saying that would make me very uneasy, I'd already be closer that I'd care to be for the simple reason that not supporting them is just as bad as doing nothing.
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