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Old 02-23-2011, 03:39 AM   #1
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Default For those who think they know the constitution

Here is an example of how little we really know about it's interpretation which is the constitution, It's over 200 years long. I'm not saying I like it, just how it is.


>>The lawsuit argued that Congress does not have the power under the Constitution to require health care purchases and that the mandate violates the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993.
Kessler rejected both arguments and ruled that Congress has the right to regulate health care spending under the Commerce Clause and that the individual mandate must be viewed not as a stand-alone reform but as an essential part of the law Obama signed 11 months ago aimed at reducing overall costs. She also said that anyone who objects to having health care for religious reasons can choose to pay the penalty instead — as the lawsuit said all five plaintiffs plan to do.<<

Agreeing to pay the penalty establishes it as law and then further interpretation/penalization will come as it always does. Government grows on and few care to know why. Way too many just view it as a power they must control never understanding any attempt at controlling it only strengthens it until it's absolute.

How did it all start? One person said to another "Your free to die, but if you want to be healed it will cost you everything you have, bankruptcy/government is your only option outside of death." So, the people turn to government and force the establishment of a law that penalizes, the fool pays it too addicted to understanding the leech never says enough. (funny, 3 of these people claim to know the story of the leech).

End game? Revolution which only tires and begins the whole process over, but not from the beginning. Starts some where when the pain was tolerable. The beginning requires the beginning and that means most all must be dead first. If that was the case government won't die for long. As soon as one of the few abuses another it will come back from the dead.

Anybody that believes what's gone on in Egypt or any where else is a new beginning is foolish. It's simply going back to an earlier date that brought forth the trouble and most likely will again at a more rapid rate.
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:55 AM   #2
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I can't speak to the nature of annelids (except for their uncanny resemblance to hard-core democrats and their minions). But it is the interpretation of the 'commerce clause' that is in question...and specifically whether or not congress has the authority to regulate activity or inactivity, if memory serves me right. You quoted but one interpretation...there are others. For this reason, the law will find it's way to the supreme court where a more accurate interpretation will prevail and this odious piece of trash legislation will find its' way to the dung-heap where it belongs.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:34 PM   #3
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I can't speak to the nature of annelids (except for their uncanny resemblance to hard-core democrats and their minions)
That has got to be the cool phrase of the day. LMAO.
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Old 02-24-2011, 08:22 AM   #4
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But it is the interpretation of the 'commerce clause' that is in question...and specifically whether or not congress has the authority to regulate activity or inactivity,.
Do they regulate activity? Governments function is to regulate, answer should be simple. They however have to be called upon to regulate. If people just stopped calling they'd stop regulating. Our history is filled to over flowing with regulation, some applauded (T Roosevelt) some cursed (FDR) .
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That has got to be the cool phrase of the day. LMAO.

I think you should've looked up the term before going along with it. I find that when the first thing out of a persons mouth is off, the rest that follows is suspect.

>>The Annelida are a medium sized phylum of more than 9,000 species of worms. Most species prefer aquatic environments, but there are also a number of well know terrestrial species. Only a few species of annelids are commonly known to human beings, these include the delightful Rain, Dew or Earthworms that work so hard to make our soils healthy, the Ragworms and Lugworms used by marine fishermen and the much smaller Tubifex or Red worms used by aquarists to feed their fish. In many countries people are still familiar with Medicinal leeches, and people who live closer to nature are naturally more familiar with a much wider range of Annelids than those who live in cities.<<
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I think you should've looked up the term before going along with it. I find that when the first thing out of a persons mouth is off, the rest that follows is suspect.

>>The Annelida are a medium sized phylum of more than 9,000 species of worms. Most species prefer aquatic environments, but there are also a number of well know terrestrial species. Only a few species of annelids are commonly known to human beings, these include the delightful Rain, Dew or Earthworms that work so hard to make our soils healthy, the Ragworms and Lugworms used by marine fishermen and the much smaller Tubifex or Red worms used by aquarists to feed their fish. In many countries people are still familiar with Medicinal leeches, and people who live closer to nature are naturally more familiar with a much wider range of Annelids than those who live in cities.<<

So what's yer point, Dummy ? The fact I did not include exact taxonomic nomenclature to denote phylum, genus, species, subspecies ? I left it to the reader's imagination as which TYPE of worm I was referring to....whether a common earthworm or a blood-sucking leech...neither have a spine, they feed on what is revolting to the rest of us, and nobody cares if they are consumed by higher forms of life. Schmuck.
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Question, knowing the commerce clause was set up in order to regulate trade with other countries in order to eliminate individual states setting up their own trade agreements and thus having power over a neighboring state, what interstate commerce is actually taking place when it comes to health insurance? Even when you basterdize the clause itself, didn't the Dems refuse to allow insurance companies from selling across state lines?
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Question, knowing the commerce clause was set up in order to regulate trade with other countries in order to eliminate individual states setting up their own trade agreements and thus having power over a neighboring state, what interstate commerce is actually taking place when it comes to health insurance? Even when you basterdize the clause itself, didn't the Dems refuse to allow insurance companies from selling across state lines?
Yes they did...and to my knowledge, they continue to do so.
And a large part of the successful argument AGAINST Baboon-care is the position that the commerce clause regulates ACTION...it is being argued that it cannot COMPEL action or PUNISH inaction, which baboon-care attempts to do.
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[quote=bergall;3777657]I can't speak to the nature of annelids (except for their uncanny resemblance to hard-core democrats and their minions).

I really don’t think you’re being fair comparing hard-core democrats to worms. That seems awful harsh on the poor worms
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I can't speak to the nature of annelids (except for their uncanny resemblance to hard-core democrats and their minions).

I really don’t think you’re being fair comparing hard-core democrats to worms. That seems awful harsh on the poor worms
It is unfair...at least the worms perform as worms should.
That democrats perform like worms is somewhat disappointing but not wholly unexpected... but worms tend to be somewhat benign, with leeches (while they are worms) being predatory, opportunistic, disgusting, and well, just blood-sucking, we can see true democrat scumbaggery at it's most virulent.

The one saving grace for the worms, is that they bear no malice, no race-hatred, no feigned benevolence. There is no malice aforethought with worms, something which cannot be said of vile stinking democrats. It'd be better to swim with leeches than dine with democrats...at least you know the leech's intentions.
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