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Old 02-17-2011, 05:37 AM   #1
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Emboldened by success in Egypt (and IMO, the putrid and milquetoast response by Obama), citizens in Bahrain were pushing for the same sort of regime change....did they think it was gonna be all beer and skittles ?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_bahrain_protests


The fact this did not happen in Egypt is indicative of the fact the army supported the change being demanded...not so in Bahrain, apparently. Personally, I agree with the authorities in Bahrain...from an American perspective, regime change is not wanted in that country as it is a strategic location for us, and we do not want another Muslim Theocracy installed as another step in the 'global caliphate'....
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:46 AM   #2
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Personally, I agree with the authorities in Bahrain...from an American perspective, regime change is not wanted in that country as it is a strategic location for us, and we do not want another Muslim Theocracy installed as another step in the 'global caliphate'....
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i have news for you, there is already a Muslim theocracy in Bahrain-a Sunni Muslim theocracy run by a very corrupt royal family, the Kalifahs. 80 percent of the citizens of Bahrain are dirt poor Shia. The royals in Bahrain may not fall anytime soon, but fall they will, right along with a bunch of other kings, princes and panjandrums.

What would you have Obama do? Invade the entire middle east in order to prop up a bunch of putrid regimes that could care less about the US until they are in danger. You supporterd the installation of a Shia run theocracy in Iraq. What is wrong with one in Bahrain?
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Simply put, we are damned if we do and we are damned if we dont. That is when it comes to the middle east
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:52 AM   #4
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i have news for you, there is already a Muslim theocracy in Bahrain-a Sunni Muslim theocracy run by a very corrupt royal family, the Kalifahs. 80 percent of the citizens of Bahrain are dirt poor Shia. The royals in Bahrain may not fall anytime soon, but fall they will, right along with a bunch of other kings, princes and panjandrums.

What would you have Obama do? Invade the entire middle east in order to prop up a bunch of putrid regimes that could care less about the US until they are in danger. You supporterd the installation of a Shia run theocracy in Iraq. What is wrong with one in Bahrain?
I don't have a problem with the one in Bahrain...they play host to the U.S. 5th fleet and I would not want to see that change. To clarify then, I do not want to see Muslim Theocracies installed under the guise of regime change IN CONTRAVENTION OF U.S. INTERESTS. I don't give a crap what the dirt-monkeys do over there...I am solely concerned with U.S. interests in the region.
The way President Babboon handled the Egyptian debacle was viewed (as reported) in the Middle East as the U.S. backstabbing their staunchest and most loyal ally Mubarak, after 30 years. That shows us as weak, vacillating, and not loyal even to our greatest friends (you think they don't know Babboon-in-Cheef handed the serial numbers of the British nuke missiles to the Russkies ? They know...) They understand betrayal....and we are now known for that betrayal....and the weakness it shows. Nice....
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:34 AM   #5
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Bergall, problem is that folks in the middle east are tired of living under a repressive dictatorships. We gripe about Obama and how awful he has made the US. There is one big difference between the US and the middle east: US voters elected Obama. No one elected the dictators of those middle east countries.

Political unrest in the Arab middle east got it's start when the US insisted that Algeria hold "fair" elections. Yep, the bad guys won that "fair" election in Algeria. Then the US turned around and told the dictator to stay in power at all costs. That lead to a l civil war with murder, torture and mayhem on both sides.

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Bergall, problem is that folks in the middle east are tired of living under a repressive dictatorships. We gripe about Obama and how awful he has made the US. There is one big difference between the US and the middle east: US voters elected Obama. No one elected the dictators of those middle east countries.

Political unrest in the Arab middle east got it's start when the US insisted that Algeria hold "fair" elections. Yep, the bad guys won that "fair" election in Algeria. Then the US turned around and told the dictator to stay in power at all costs. That lead to a l civil war with murder, torture and mayhem on both sides.

I understand this completely .... did not know any specifics about Algeria .... but my point is that where we have political affiliations with 'despots' who are friendly to the US (or whom we can buy off), these are our allies in the region. When populist movements take hold and topple a regime, these muslim countries cede power to the mullahs and we have an antagonist where there was not one before. I am very anxious to see what happens in Egypt...they are suppposed to be the most 'enlightened' nation in the region so i'll be interested to see who wrests power and takes control; if Egypt selects a theocracy as it's new means of self-governance, then there is not really much hope for the rest of the region. I do not really care about the 'Yemeni struggle' for democracy because it's no more than a slogan....they wish to trade one despot for another...
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The Obama administration expressed alarm over the violent crackdown. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton called Bahrain's foreign minister to register Washington's "deep concern" and urge restraint. Similar criticism came from Britain and the European Union.
More failed U.S. foreign policy in the works. We don't a regime change, yet we complain when the current government acts to prevent one. No brains and no backbone certainly don't improve our standings in the world or our foreign relations.
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More failed U.S. foreign policy in the works. We don't a regime change, yet we complain when the current government acts to prevent one. No brains and no backbone certainly don't improve our standings in the world or our foreign relations.
we appear weak, duplicitous, and disingenuous.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:06 PM   #9
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Thought you where talking about a diffent repressive king with failed Us policys.




( not that i see the clintoons as his enemys( like in the pict)- just competitors for the topdog job( king)- otherwise they are hand in hand like minded comrads)
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