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Old 02-15-2011, 03:54 PM   #1
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Default Repeal of Obamacare is dismissed

Looks as though the House Rules Committee has rejected the King proposal to defund this pile of crap, and will not support it being brought up in the House.
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:05 PM   #2
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Makes you wonder what is it going to take to get this government under control.
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:11 PM   #3
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Not very much info out there just yet about this Robert.
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:17 PM   #4
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You mean the already declared unconstitutional bill that today is suppose to be dead and no longer implemented? One has to ask, why hasn't all work ended? I wish one insurance company would step forward and say, those up to 26 year olds are no longer covered next year.
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:55 PM   #5
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You mean the already declared unconstitutional bill that today is suppose to be dead and no longer implemented? One has to ask, why hasn't all work ended?
Declared unconstitutional by a lower court, but, not stayed. The court specifically left it in effect pending appeal.

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Why would they do that? They'd be giving up a pile of premiums. 26 year olds don't generally incur a lot of medical bills... They'd likely lose a bundle off their bottom line.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:37 PM   #6
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Whoa, it was declared unconstitutional and I thought it was his ruling that needed to be stayed or set aside for an appeal. Explain what I'm missing.

Second, if leaving siblings on the insurance until age 26 is so profitable, how come insurance companies didn't already come up with that idea?
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Whoa, it was declared unconstitutional and I thought it was his ruling that needed to be stayed or set aside for an appeal. Explain what I'm missing.
I'm really not sure how it worked... I thought I read that one of the avenues of relief that was sought was an injunction against any acts to implement the law, and that that portion of the relief had been denied. I'll have to look up the decision and read it...

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Second, if leaving siblings on the insurance until age 26 is so profitable, how come insurance companies didn't already come up with that idea?
Yeah, maybe it's just personal experience, but, seems to me that, typically, there's not a lot of medical attention sought between the ages of 21 and 26. But, seemed to me that it was just taken for granted that kids got kicked off at 21 unless they were a full time student. I just thought it was more of a decision based on emancipation than on dollars and cents.
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:26 PM   #8
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I'm really not sure how it worked... I thought I read that one of the avenues of relief that was sought was an injunction against any acts to implement the law, and that that portion of the relief had been denied. I'll have to look up the decision and read it...



Yeah, maybe it's just personal experience, but, seems to me that, typically, there's not a lot of medical attention sought between the ages of 21 and 26. But, seemed to me that it was just taken for granted that kids got kicked off at 21 unless they were a full time student. I just thought it was more of a decision based on emancipation than on dollars and cents.
It's more about expensive ER visits that don't get paid, for the very same reason you stated...Not much call for insurance for a "kid" 21-26 years old.
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Old 02-16-2011, 03:08 AM   #9
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I'm really not sure how it worked... I thought I read that one of the avenues of relief that was sought was an injunction against any acts to implement the law, and that that portion of the relief had been denied. I'll have to look up the decision and read it...
please do IPSC during all that spare time you have. As I understand it, the entire law has been deemed unconstitutional. It was up to the Obama Justice Department to got to the appeals court and request the lower courts ruling stayed. They have chosen not to do that. Some speculate they are afraid of the result they may get. It's up to them to convince the higher court that they stand a good chance to win.

Does Obama really want to chance it or just appeal it? Right now it looks like they are content to being in contempt of the court by ignoring the ruling and doing what they damn well please just like the oil moratorium they have chosen to ignore. Why care if the Senate could careless? The 26 states and others have requested a fast track and asked Obama to also join them in petitioning the SC. He won't. Again, he knows the ruling faces a better than even chance of being upheld and then he would have to stop. Today he has cover from the media and his buddies in the Senate.

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Yeah, maybe it's just personal experience, but, seems to me that, typically, there's not a lot of medical attention sought between the ages of 21 and 26. But, seemed to me that it was just taken for granted that kids got kicked off at 21 unless they were a full time student. I just thought it was more of a decision based on emancipation than on dollars and cents.
you're right, that's why they choose not to carry it. However, corporations next open season should think long and hard about dropping that coverage as well as stop requesting waivers to a law that currently doesn't exist.
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Old 02-16-2011, 04:43 AM   #10
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We need less government control on all issue. The democrats that are power grabbers need to be sent packing. VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!!!!!! Jim
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